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Old 07-03-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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How many people is enough?

A path to citizenship for illegal immigrants may be a reality sooner or later. This will probably add millions more when their family comes.

This country also surprisingly allows more LEGAL immigrants per year then the rest of the world combined. I'd guess many land in CA. I don't see birth rates slowing down.

Overpopulation effects everyone's QOL and drains resources.

Discuss.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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How many people is enough?
Three [is a crowd]

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A path to citizenship for illegal immigrants may be a reality sooner or later. This will probably add millions more when their family comes.
Probably not -- since more are leaving than coming now ... or haven't you been keeping up with the news? Too busy for facts? I nt happens to so many these days ... busy busy busy ...

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This country also surprisingly allows more LEGAL immigrants per year then the rest of the world combined. I'd guess many land in CA. I don't see birth rates slowing down.
Well, if you don't see birth rates slowing down you haven't been paying attention ---- again ...

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Overpopulation effects everyone's QOL and drains resources.
Yes, it does... very observant.

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Discuss.
I just did. And you're so very welcome!
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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The equilibrium will be established by supply, demand, and available resources.
There is plenty of land.
Not sure if there is enough water (but there is no shortage of pipes).
Anything can be trucked in.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Three [is a crowd]

Probably not -- since more are leaving than coming now ... or haven't you been keeping up with the news? Too busy for facts? I nt happens to so many these days ... busy busy busy ...

Well, if you don't see birth rates slowing down you haven't been paying attention ---- again ...

Yes, it does... very observant.

I just did. And you're so very welcome!
Lots of people are leaving, sure. But they are being replaced by immigrants and some out of state folks. It's basically a wash for all practical purposes.

As the immigrant population continues to grow birth rates will rise.

You're talking about the here and now, but this is about the future.

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The equilibrium will be established by supply, demand, and available resources.
There is plenty of land.
Not sure if there is enough water (but there is no shortage of pipes).
Anything can be trucked in.
The main population centers where people live. At nearly 10 million people, LA Country must be passed or near that equilibrium by now right?
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Lots of currently unoccupied desert land to escape to. I wouldn't worry too much. As Nully said, three is a crowd.

But you can do your part tomorrow by quitting your job and adding to the current unemployment rate. It discourages immigration dontcha know.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:58 PM
 
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Lots of people are leaving, sure. But they are being replaced by immigrants and some out of state folks. It's basically a wash for all practical purposes.

As the immigrant population continues to grow birth rates will rise.

You're talking about the here and now, but this is about the future.
I'm talking about the illegals you referenced ... they are leaving in greater numbers than they are arriving ... which, in some industries, is causing some real problems, btw. As for the legal immigrants, what's the problem with them being immigrants? The problem is too many damn people, not where they come from legally.

Immigrants are having fewer children than ever before ... as I said, you are uninformed. Look it up ... it's good exercise for you...
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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How many people is enough?

A path to citizenship for illegal immigrants may be a reality sooner or later. This will probably add millions more when their family comes.

This country also surprisingly allows more LEGAL immigrants per year then the rest of the world combined. I'd guess many land in CA. I don't see birth rates slowing down.

Overpopulation effects everyone's QOL and drains resources.

Discuss.
Don't expect to get any intelligent conversation here. Besides most of these folks believe they are entitled.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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I'm talking about the illegals you referenced ... they are leaving in greater numbers than they are arriving ... which, in some industries, is causing some real problems, btw. As for the legal immigrants, what's the problem with them being immigrants? The problem is too many damn people, not where they come from legally.

Immigrants are having fewer children than ever before ... as I said before, you are uninformed. Look it up ... it's good exercise for you...
Yeah right. Not with possible amnesty around the corner. Why would they? This is all over Mexican radio I've read and people are heading to the border towns.

Much of those legal immigrants settle in California.

As someone who's spent a lot of time in the Bay Area and SoCal, I can tell you this state feels like it's packed to the brim with people. It's manageable enough now, but if the population grows by more then 2-3% a year then that's not good for anyone. If you lived elsewhere in the state then you probably wouldn't understand.

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Lots of currently unoccupied desert land to escape to. I wouldn't worry too much. As Nully said, three is a crowd.

But you can do your part tomorrow by quitting your job and adding to the current unemployment rate. It discourages immigration dontcha know.
Always gonna be empty space. But adding thousands more to the bigger cities with limited space/resources is not good

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Don't expect to get any intelligent conversation here. Besides most of these folks believe they are entitled.
You might be right

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Old 07-03-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: SGV, CA
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Have you driven on the freeways recently? California is overpopulated already. Whatever though, unless you belong to one of the indigenous tribes every one of us intruded upon people who did not want us here. Either adapt (as I did), leave (as many of my friends did) or die angry and bitter (like my neighbor across the street).
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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A path to citizenship for illegal immigrants may be a reality sooner or later.

We already have a path to citizenship in the U.S.. Trouble is, a number of people who want citizenship don't want to do it the way it's required.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/files/M-1051.pdf
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