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Old 07-14-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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A lot of people still don't see anything wrong with Jim Crow, either. Nobody's rushing to include those people in "diversity".

Lets see:

Male Chauvinism = Bad
Female Feminism= Good

Double standard.

Diversity in a Liberal's view is
Feminism
Sexual diversity
Minority superiority
Socialism only
Corporations are bad
Being Rich is Bad (Double standard as most of the Rich are Liberals)
Being poor is good
Free speech is fine unless it is against a Liberal point of view, then it is hate speech
NPR is balanced and Fox is not.
Liberal commentators never lie and Conservative commentators always lie.

Thus unisex bathrooms are good because .... somebody Liberal thought they are and only brain dead conservatives in CA would oppose something no one has really complained about before, i.i. men and women restrooms.

I think it is the next step in the Gay agenda so they can use any restroom they want.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Perhaps you can tell me why you don't tolerate a conservative point of view.
I just did genius! Did the remark about the attack on education go right over your head??? That's the reason!
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Lets see:

Male Chauvinism = Bad
Female Feminism= Good

Double standard.

Diversity in a Liberal's view is
Feminism
Sexual diversity
Minority superiority
Socialism only
Corporations are bad
Being Rich is Bad (Double standard as most of the Rich are Liberals)
Being poor is good
Free speech is fine unless it is against a Liberal point of view, then it is hate speech
NPR is balanced and Fox is not.
Liberal commentators never lie and Conservative commentators always lie.

Thus unisex bathrooms are good because .... somebody Liberal thought they are and only brain dead conservatives in CA would oppose something no one has really complained about before, i.i. men and women restrooms.

I think it is the next step in the Gay agenda so they can use any restroom they want.
This is your response to a post about Jim Crow? Do we infer from this you're trying to defend it?

Lots of straw-man arguments here.
Nobody's pushing "minority superiority", where'd you get that one?
Nobody's pushing "socialism". Not that that has anything to do with the OP.
Feminism is not for "female superiority", it's anti-discrimination in general. Chauvinism of any kind (racial, gender-based) isn't pro-equality on anyone's behalf.
Free speech is fine as long as it doesn't endanger people. There are legal restrictions on "free speech". Look it up.

Who said unisex bathrooms are "good"? The only people here saying they're "good" or at least, doable, are the people advocating building fortress-stalls in every bathroom. It hasn't been much of a discussion so far, imo.

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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All this drama continues in an age in which public university funding is being reduced and costs to students are increasing. One would think that in such financial circumstances, the remaining budgetary resources would be shunted to public university career programs but that would leave liberal professors with less of a luxury to fritter away their days on gender and race theory.
Just a reality check: universities have completely separate budgets for physical plant and academics. Never shall the twain meet, or mix and match. The bathroom issue would not deprive the academic side of operations. And the number of faculty who devote their career to gender and race theory can usually be counted on the fingers of one or both hands. Of course, that would be something much of the white male contingent wouldn't be able to relate to, and would trivialize. You know, they call it "liberal arts" for a reason. There's no such thing as a "conservative arts" curriculum, LOL! hyuk hyuk
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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This is your response to a post about Jim Crow? Do we infer from this you're trying to defend it?

Lots of straw-man arguments here.
Nobody's pushing "minority superiority", where'd you get that one?
Nobody's pushing "socialism". Not that that has anything to do with the OP.
Feminism is not for "female superiority", it's anti-discrimination in general. Chauvinism of any kind (racial, gender-based) isn't pro-equality on anyone's behalf.
Free speech is fine as long as it doesn't endanger people. There are legal restrictions on "free speech". Look it up.

Who said unisex bathrooms are "good"? The only people here saying they're "good" or at least, doable, are the people advocating building fortress-stalls in every bathroom. It hasn't been much of a discussion so far, imo.
Hi,

Well it was a little tongue in cheek.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Personally, I know it won't be the end of the world if some state wants to go unisex, but I also can't imagine anyone comparing Jim Crow laws and separate bathrooms based on sex. The Jim Crow law was discriminating and wrong, separate bathrooms are anything but that, they are equal and fair. When are people going to realize male and females are not the same? Each has some different needs, even different emotions, and certainly, if nothing else different plumbing. I am a female and I do expect to be treated equal, my husband is a male and he treats me equal but we are not alike.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Personally, I know it won't be the end of the world if some state wants to go unisex, but I also can't imagine anyone comparing Jim Crow laws and separate bathrooms based on sex. The Jim Crow law was discriminating and wrong, separate bathrooms are anything but that, they are equal and fair. When are people going to realize male and females are not the same? Each has some different needs, even different emotions, and certainly, if nothing else different plumbing. I am a female and I do expect to be treated equal, my husband is a male and he treats me equal but we are not alike.
But if you are the "feminine" part of a male/male marriage, you want to be viewed as such, so....

If you are the "masculine" part of a female/female marriage you want to be identified as such....

This probably started in San Francisco as CA does take the lead in many of these issues and that part of the State is quite active in such.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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I am a female and I do expect to be treated equal, my husband is a male and he treats me equal but we are not alike.
Which is precisely what "feminism" is: The radical notion that men and women are equal. (Difference is, one's rights have historically been suppressed by the other. Lots of present day examples to peruse.)

Whereas it has been fittingly suggested that there are (thankfully) notable differences between the sexes, it should not be accepted that women are intellectually inferior to men, as has always been put forth by those who wish to dominate the species by systematic subjugation by one side. Starting with fearmongering about who ate the Forbidden Fruit . Yet, there are some folks in here (not you, nita) who would suggest that sort of subjugation merely represents an "alternative point of view" that ought to be embraced along with any other. Maybe for fools, or those fostering an ever-darkening agenda.

Men aren't worried about this unisex bathroom issue. Women may well be. It's one of those decisions best made by them. Shall we move on to which gender should decide on abortion issues?
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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Further note: before the advent of the neolithic age -- which is the beginning of rule over others by control and laws -- life was egalitarian ... women were not inferior. The subjugations within societies didn't occur in natural order -- until humans outgrew their natural britches, at which time a ruling-class mentality began to emerge, seeking domination over others. It started as a need to protect tribal territory once agricultural was adopted as a way of life instead of hunting and gathering. Goes to the old saying: "the more you have -- the more you have to protect". Problem is, who emerged as the best at control often turned out to be the 2 - 3% of people born lacking ability to relate empathetically with their peers. In today's scientific parlance, these folks are known as sociopaths. Some studies have suggested the rate of sociopathy is as much as 10x greater in men than women.

Obviously this is the root of the issue of who ended up making decisions about whom. The world has been run mostly by the driving forces of about 3% or so of its population since the neolithic age. There are many fine people involved in world affairs -- both historically and in our contemporary age -- but the root directions come from the most ruthless.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:46 PM
 
Location: California
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Just a reality check: universities have completely separate budgets for physical plant and academics. Never shall the twain meet, or mix and match. The bathroom issue would not deprive the academic side of operations.
Yup. I had a really big argument with someone over this when our local JC was doing construction but cutting some majors and programs. I had to keep pointing out that the construction was being funded by bond measures that had pass years and years earlier but it just didn't get through to them. Most things in life are not as "simple" and people like to pretend they are. But pretending is how we get to feel smart
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