Rank the Downtowns of Californian cities (San Diego, San Jose: apartments, city hall, rent)

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by majoun

Sounds like you haven't been in downtown LA since the '90s.

I went to Downtown last month. It still bites.

[bradleyyo]

Originally Posted by GatsbyGatz

SD tops DTLA easily. DTLA has 4 cool blocks with hipsters and regular people. Besides that, it's a horribly depressing place. Over half of DTLA is a wasteland with deranged drug addicts and crowds suffering from mental illnesses.

4 decent blocks does not a good downtown make. There are shopping malls more vibrant than DTLA.

I've always thought LA had a small downtown for such a huge city.

[blue bird]

Originally Posted by majoun

Sounds like you haven't been in downtown LA since the '90s.

My girlfriend and I went through California by Greyhound. The station is located east of Skid Row. We walked through the human waste infested areas with tons of homeless and mentally ills just last week. This is the sickest downtown we've have even seen. Two hipsters blocks of Spring St. doesn't make up for the vast of blighted area of Dt LA. 7th and Fig/Flower(office core Bunker Hill) with Macy's and Ross on Broadway and new Zara/Urban Outfitter there are just too little and too small compared to the vast blight of Dt LA and its tons of surface lots.

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by blue bird

My girlfriend and I went through California by Greyhound. The station is located east of Skid Row. We walked through the human waste infested areas with tons of homeless and mentally ills just last week. This is the sickest downtown we've have even seen. Two hipsters blocks of Spring St. doesn't make up for the vast of blighted area of Dt LA. 7th and Fig/Flower(office core Bunker Hill) with Macy's and Ross on Broadway and new Zara/Urban Outfitter there are just too little and too small compared to the vast blight of Dt LA and its tons of surface lots.

Completely agree with this. A couple new stores cannot repair such atrocious blight and sufferage.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

DTLA-- East/West from Spring Street to the 110 freeway, and North/South from the Civic Center to South Park comprise is over two sq miles in size. Hardly a couple of blocks like these posters are claiming. None of it is depressing either--DTLA actually has one of the highest median incomes in the city.

Anyone who argues that they saw multiple corpses while walking through DT has ZERO credibility. Gatsby is a wannabe bourgeois ex-native who thinks signs in Spanish are an example of blight. No credibility either.

Most of the homeless congregate East of Spring Street. Stay away from there and you're fine.

DT San Diego and San Jose do not compare.

[Harrier]

#10 - Arvin.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by rgb123

There are some very nice downtowns that are not major cities. (yet)

Yep - San Francisco - for one.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by blue bird

Go and hang out in Skid Row, which is the heart of Dt LA and the areas around Broadway/Hill.

Uh, no.

LA's Skid Row is on the outskirts of DTLA - and you clearly have absolutely no clue bout what you are talking about.

Time to graciously bow out.

Goodbye.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Yep - San Francisco - for one.

hahaha...put your claws away girlfriend, we're all friends here.

[blue bird]

San Diego-San Jose>SF>long Beach>LA

Both San Diego and San Jose don't have skid row or Tenderloin like rundown areas of downtown. Otherwise, I'd put SF on top because of its size and tons of shopping/rest/art museum and parks downtown. Tenderloin/Mid Market and Sixth are turn offs for us, along with its shear area coverage. Most of Dt. LA is severely blighted(including Broadway, Hill and Grand) to really have us appreciate this sort of improving downtown one block at a time.