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Old 03-16-2014, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Rocky Mountain Xplorer
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Talk to people who work in the fossil-fuel industry, and they tell you they feel ostracized and even hated; to be an oil firm in California is like being a pork producer in an ultra-Orthodox section of Jerusalem. One top industry executive told me that many of his colleagues in California cringe at the prospect of being attacked by politicians and activists as something akin to war criminals. “I wouldn’t subject my kids to that environment,” the Gulf Coast-based oilman suggested.
What matters here is not the hurt feelings of energy executives, but a massive lost opportunity to create loads of desperately needed jobs, particularly for blue-collar workers. The nation may be undergoing a massive “energy revolution,” based largely on new supplies of oil and, particularly, cleaner natural gas, but California so far has decided not to play.
California clearly is squandering an opportunity to restart a large part of its economy. Texas energy has created some 200,000 new jobs over the past decade, while California has barely mustered 20,000.
What about “green jobs”? Overall, California leads in green jobs, simply by dint of size; but on a per-capita basis, notes a recent Brookings study, California is about average. In wind energy, in fact, California is not even in first place; that honor goes to, of all places, Texas, which boasts twice California’s level of production. Ironically, one reason for this mediocre performance lies in environmental regulationsthat make California a tough place even for renewables. Even the New York Times has described Gov. Jerry Brown’s promise about creating a half-million new jobs as something of a “pipe dream.” Even though surviving solar firms are busy, in part to meet the state’s strict renewable mandates, solar firms acknowledge that they won’t be doing much of the manufacturing here, anyway.
The worst impact of this deindustrialization is felt by blue-collar California. Even San Jose, the Central Valley’s traditional manufacturing hub, looks, as analyst Jim Russell suggests, more and more like a “rust-belt town.”
Energy Running Out of California :: Fox&Hounds
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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San Jose looks like a rust belt town? My guess is the author has never been to San Jose-for one thing San Jose is NOT in the Central Valley.

Another BS California Bashing troll thread.
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Old 03-16-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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We'll be fine.
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Are there no blue collar workers involved in clean energy? Wind farms? Solar? Hydroelectric dams?

I recently saw an ad on Craigslist for blue collar workers needed for one of the dams up here by Redding.

Oil industry blue collar workers will find work somewhere else, or get retrained. If, in fact, they can't find work in CA.

I wish the world's oil supply would just dry up. Do you think we'd have wars over wind energy? I wonder.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:17 PM
 
Location: M*I*A*M*I
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Are there no blue collar workers involved in clean energy? Wind farms? Solar? Hydroelectric dams?

I recently saw an ad on Craigslist for blue collar workers needed for one of the dams up here by Redding.

Oil industry blue collar workers will find work somewhere else, or get retrained. If, in fact, they can't find work in CA.

I wish the world's oil supply would just dry up. Do you think we'd have wars over wind energy? I wonder.
agreed.

before fossil fuels showed up, the world was a peaceful place.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA Formerly Clovis, CA
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agreed.

before fossil fuels showed up, the world was a peaceful place.
AHAHAHAH, have u not read history at all?
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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AHAHAHAH, have u not read history at all?
I am really hoping his post was sarcasm.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA Formerly Clovis, CA
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I am really hoping his post was sarcasm.
Me to, otherwise, that person needs to take a history lesson.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Dana Point
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I don't understand why people so easily dismiss blue collar manufacturing or industrial jobs as if California's economy doesn't miss them.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I don't understand why people so easily dismiss blue collar manufacturing or industrial jobs as if California's economy doesn't miss them.
People dismiss them now because things are going well in certain parts of the state, like the Bay Area. The same people in the Bay Area that things are rainbows and unicorns do not travel to the Central Valley to see the real affects of the state approved cali economy have on middle class families.
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