Will you drive less starting next January? (Los Angeles, San Diego: day care, high school)

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by eccotecc

You say an increase in business expense is passed on as a price increase. Doesn't the sales tax increase proportionately to the increased price?

The thread was about a new tax on gasoline in CA. There is no new tax in CA that will be between 15% & 75% starting in Jan, which the OP's link to an article claimed. These would be in addition to existing taxes.

Talking about an increase in an existing tax based on increased prices is not the subject of the thread, which claimed that there will be a new tax, in addition to existing taxes, and asked if that new tax would affect how much we drive.

As there are no new gas taxes in the works, they won't affect anyone's driving whatsoever.

This is a red herring thread.

[Phyxius]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

More concerned with the planet than people? Not a necessary comment curm. If the planet dies, we die. If we die the planet survives. With that being said, I agree with the rest of your post. To hell with this train to no where baloney! Most of the Bay Area, Los Angeles and certainly San Diego could use some of that money to improve public transportation that people actually use. Do that and more people would leave their cars at home and take public transit more then we would not need a tax.

Does everyone live near a transit stop?
Is the destination of everyone located along a transit line?

Public transportation only takes a small percentage of traffic off the road. There will be people who will not find public transit convenient for them regardless how much improvement is done.

[eccotecc]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

The thread was about a new tax on gasoline in CA. There is no new tax in CA that will be between 15% & 75% starting in Jan, which the OP's link to an article claimed.

Talking about an increase in an existing tax based on increased prices is not the subject of the thread, which claimed that there will be a new tax, and asked if that new tax would affect how much we drive.

Please allow me to try to explain it to you. If something cost $1.00 and the tax is 0.08, the cost is $1.08. If the same item goes to $2.00 and the tax stays at 0.08, the cost is $2.16. The tax went from $0.08 to $0.16.

If the price of gas increases, the amount you pay in sales tax will also increase.

The tax will be placed on refineries which will pass this on to the consumer not as a tax but as an increase in the price of gas. You will then pay the appropriate sales tax on the increased price of gas.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/members/runner..._Nightmare.pdf

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Fran66

Luv you, C.

::::sigh:::: Guess we're just star-crossed!

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by eccotecc

Please allow me to try to explain it to you. If something cost $1.00 and the tax is 0.08, the cost is $1.08. If the same item goes to $2.00 and the tax stays at 0.08, the cost is $2.16. The tax went from $0.08 to $0.16.

If the price of gas increases, the amount you pay in sales tax will also increase.

The tax will be placed on refineries which will pass this on to the consumer not as a tax but as an increase in the price of gas. You will then pay the appropriate sales tax on the increased price of gas.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/members/runner..._Nightmare.pdf

Ah yes! The ever popular Board of Equalization. The goal is apparently to make everyone in California equally broke before all is said and done.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Phyxius

Does everyone live near a transit stop?
Is the destination of everyone located along a transit line?

Public transportation only takes a small percentage of traffic off the road. There will be people who will not find public transit convenient for them regardless how much improvement is done.

What's your point? Have you read and understood my posts? I also did mention that either way, a tax is not a good idea. So, just because everyone doesn't live near a transit stop, we should do nothing to improve it? Why are you bringing this up? What's your point here?

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by eccotecc

Please allow me to try to explain it to you. If something cost $1.00 and the tax is 0.08, the cost is $1.08. If the same item goes to $2.00 and the tax stays at 0.08, the cost is $2.16. The tax went from $0.08 to $0.16.

If the price of gas increases, the amount you pay in sales tax will also increase.

The tax will be placed on refineries which will pass this on to the consumer not as a tax but as an increase in the price of gas. You will then pay the appropriate sales tax on the increased price of gas.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/members/runner..._Nightmare.pdf

Duh. This is like saying, when it's rainy, there is more rain.

The thread is about a "new" tax of 15% - 75%, which isn't going to happen. There is no such tax.

Discussing how businesses pass costs on to the consumer, and how that results in a bigger total tax paid based on the new prices paid - aka "inflation" - is a separate topic from the OP.

Thus, a red herring.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

More concerned with the planet than people? Not a necessary comment curm. If the planet dies, we die. If we die the planet survives. With that being said, I agree with the rest of your post. To hell with this train to no where baloney! Most of the Bay Area, Los Angeles and certainly San Diego could use some of that money to improve public transportation that people actually use. Do that and more people would leave their cars at home and take public transit more then we would not need a tax.

This kill the planet stuff is the best entertainment on the forum....as though we could if we tried....and as though the planet cares one iota about how much public transit we are using or last year's Pruis sales.

The wisdom of PT Barnum's words is eternal.

[SandyCo]

NoSnowForMe, it looks like no matter how you define it, we'll be paying more at the pump next year. Will I drive less to offset the increase? No, but I'm very grateful that my commute to work is only eleven miles!

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

This kill the planet stuff is the best entertainment on the forum....as though we could if we tried....and as though the planet cares one iota about how much public transit we are using or last year's Pruis sales.

The wisdom of PT Barnum's words is eternal.

Do you even know what it means when someone says that? If not, stick to topics you know about.