California #1! ....in poverty says US Census Bureau (Sacramento: income tax, live)

[xenxes]

What is this alternative method of calculation they are referring to?

*Nevermind looked it up -- takes in account of low income assistance programs by state governments, also uses regional price parities. Of course CA costs more than NM.

https://www.census.gov/hhes/povmeas/.../research.html

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

The proof is that California is now #1 in having the most people in poverty per capita.

It's pretty obvious that undocumented immigrants, unskilled, unemployed, underemployed, and uneducated people are drawn to California.

It's pretty obvious to people who don't think through the issue, I suppose.

To intelligent, informed people, however, the real obvious truth is that ALL kinds of people are attracted to California. Were you to reseach demographics, you would find an extraordinary community of scholars, entrepreneurs, educators, artists, innovators and developers of all kinds, exceptional financial investors and managers, and so forth.

The fact that people unprepared to compete here show up when they shouldn't, and stay when they should leave, is not the state's fault or responsibility. However, that said, given the extraordinary wealth and successes of this state, it is nice that we do our best to help people out who are struggling.

The thing about irresponsible, ignorant remarks as you continue to post is: it is people like you who encourage some folks to come out who aren't prepared. You persist on supporting the myth that the state has all these wonderful programs to allow the poor and uneducated etc to thrive here more than other less desirable places. When it's not the case at all. I and others on this forum have demonstrated this to you.

And we all would appreciate you not spreading false rumor. You do us all, and the state, and especially the unprepared dreamers, a greatly damaging disservice. Cease and desist.

[things and stuff]

Originally Posted by LoriBee62

I don't even know what that means, but given I'm talking to someone in New Orleans who spends his day sitting on the internet bashing California for some bizarre reason, I'm not going to spend much time pondering it.

My guess is this fascination with California is just more conservative agenda

I'm as socially liberal as they come. I'm a pro-union, pro-socialized healthcare minority woman. Volunteered to help a democrat get elected back in my days at Washington state.

The problem is that I am also pragmatic and a realist, while you simply have your head in the sand. Keep trying to disparage my character as a response. It won't make the truth any less true.

[things and stuff]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

spreading false rumor.

The truth is that California has the most poverty per capita now, according to the US census and their geographically adjusted formula.

You're the one doing California a disservice by perpetuating idiocracy. I want California to not have these large numbers of poor and under-employed. I want california to have sane laws. I want california to not inflate home prices more than they already would be. I want Republicans to stop pointing at california and *selectively* using various aspects as "proof" as to why liberalism doesn't work.

By the same token, I hate Louisiana and Texas because they are the exact opposite of California. It's full of people who have no standards and participate in a race to the bottom. There's got to be some middle ground.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

California inflates their home prices now? Must be their sneaky way of attracting more poor people.

[UKWildcat1981]

Thats because CALIFORNIA knows how to party.. in the city of LA.. in the city we keep it rocking.. i guess 2pac is putting it down for CALIFOR NIAAHHHHHHH.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

California has the largest population of any state, leading #2 Texas by 12,000,000, and 3 times as many people as #5. I don't think anyone should be surprised that they would also lead the states in both poverty and billionaires.

Poverty rates are based on percentages, not raw numbers. Duh.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

The truth is that California has the most poverty per capita now, according to the US census and their geographically adjusted formula.

You're the one doing California a disservice by perpetuating idiocracy. I want California to not have these large numbers of poor and under-employed. I want california to have sane laws. I want california to not inflate home prices more than they already would be. I want Republicans to stop pointing at california and *selectively* using various aspects as "proof" as to why liberalism doesn't work.

By the same token, I hate Louisiana and Texas because they are the exact opposite of California. It's full of people who have no standards and participate in a race to the bottom. There's got to be some middle ground.

Now, I have never denied the poverty statistic for California. It is immaterial, for reasons I have previously stated. My entire beef with your posts is your perpetual false representations that California hands out support to the poor and uneducated and illegals, etc., like candy at Halloween. And that somehow these programs magically provide a desirable living for anyone who'd rather sit on their arse than work. Which is complete poppycock. If it were true there would be no low wage workers in the state, and we know there are millions upon millions.

But equally interesting is: the reason for your "desire" and interest for California. Again and again, I point out: ya don't live here. You've never lived here. You're not likely ever gonna live here. Your only connection is perpetuating harmful myths for reasons untold.

Knock it off.

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

But equally interesting is: the reason for your "desire" and interest for California. Again and again, I point out: ya don't live here. You've never lived here. You're not likely ever gonna live here. Your only connection is perpetuating harmful myths for reasons untold.

Um, actually, according to the Sacramento Forum, she's looking into moving here. Quite possibly due to this reason you mentioned below:

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

your perpetual false representations that California hands out support to the poor and uneducated and illegals, etc., like candy at Halloween. And that somehow these programs magically provide a desirable living for anyone who'd rather sit on their arse than work.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by LoriBee62

Um, actually, according to the Sacramento Forum, she's looking into moving here. Quite possibly due to this reason you mentioned below:

Yeah. I'm sticking with my bet she doesn't come.
Unless it's for those mythical benny's. THAT would be hilarious