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Old 11-09-2014, 01:19 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Sorry, but what keeps the Bay Area so cool all year is the cold water temps from the norcal waters, fog has nothing to do with sheiding from the heat. ive been to SF and woken up to a foggy summer day in the 50s, and when the fog clears it stays in the 50s or barely makes it to the 60s. so those cold bay waters keep it so cool. if the waters in the bay area were 80 F then you would have no fog and the temps and humidity would drastically increase.

also the "Bay Area's" hottest climate is inner bay cities like Walnut creek and dont see nothing near 4-5 months of 90s and 100s
OH YEAH? Then why is the one month of the summer (summer/fall) that there's no fog always the hottest month? It's no coincidence. The Bay waters do nothing to keep things cool during the annual September heat wave.
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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The El Nino predictions are long term, usually 3-7 months out, based on conditions far down in the tropics. If conditions there stay the same or increase, the event might happen - but things there can shift as well, which is what happened. The prediction is still for an El Nino, but a weak one in spring rather than the strong one starting in fall as predicted earlier. It is likely to mean more rain for California, but California is in such a hole from a longer term cumulative lack of rain and snow pack that it is not likely to catch up this year.

As far as geological conditions and planning, a lot of that is relatively recent and depends on the area. In the Portland metro area (and much of the Willamette Valley), old landslides and drainages are better mapped now than they were before and those particular mistakes are not as likely to be made again. Run-off issues (as you described) are supposed to be comprehensively planned and one development is not supposed to impact another, but it clearly still happens.
I agree with you. It's going to take above average rainfall for the next several years to replenish the groundwater supply. Based on next week's weather forecast, we aren't going to be seeing any precipitation. I have to concur with the OP. This sunshine is getting old.

After the flooding issues, city planners have cracked down on developers now and the problems haven't been occurring around here, lately. It takes a couple of disastrous events to wake people up, I suppose.
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Old 11-09-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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OH YEAH? Then why is the one month of the summer (summer/fall) that there's no fog always the hottest month? It's no coincidence. The Bay waters do nothing to keep things cool during the annual September heat wave.
the water temps are EVERYTHING. you dont have a clue. guess how the weather would be in SF if the bay area averaged 90 F waters, guess how it would be in 40 F summer waters. guess.
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Old 11-09-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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the water temps are EVERYTHING. you dont have a clue. guess how the weather would be in SF if the bay area averaged 90 F waters, guess how it would be in 40 F summer waters. guess.
You didn't answer my question.
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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L.A-Mex finally said something I agree with. San Francisco summers SUCK and their beaches are unusable. Fog and overcast and 50s for weeks on the end without any rain is the worst kind of weather.
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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OH YEAH? Then why is the one month of the summer (summer/fall) that there's no fog always the hottest month? It's no coincidence. The Bay waters do nothing to keep things cool during the annual September heat wave.
yes im sorry, that one month (September) without fog, is only two degrees warmer than August the next hottest summer month. But I see now, the Fog plagued and gloomy august averaging 68 F high, is followed by a Fog-less, absolutely scorching September month averaging 70 F high (an enormous difference). so yes without fog everything changes and makes a previously 68 F month, a scorcher 95 F , good one.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Worry not
Our government sprayed the crap out of us today ... notice the cris-cross thick pattern if spraying that started this morning and now the weirs cloud cover... not only do we have drought... but were being poisoned while they try to make it rain...
Rain Thursday....
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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It was 82 degrees again today. Some people would find that lovely.

I never thought I'd ever be unhappy to wake up and see the sun shining. But, the sun in Redding is relentless. My apartment got hot enough today to turn on the A/C for about an hour to cool it back down. November 5th.

On paper, it sounds so nice to live somewhere where the sun comes out nearly every single day. But, here, it comes with heat. It seems like the sun is always in my eyes, and not in a good way LOL! In the, I'm trying to drive and the sun is right in my eyes, kind of way.

If/when I am able to move to Crescent City on the coast where it is cloudy and rainy and blessedly cool, please remind me that I said I got sick of sunshine in Redding ha ha!

I never understood posters who said they wanted to live somewhere with seasons. I thought, why wouldn't you want sunshine all the year round? Of course, I thought this while living in the SF Bay Area, where the weather is the perfect blend of warmth/cool and mostly sun mixed with some cloudy days. I miss my Bay Area weather.

Anybody else ever experience this phenomenon? Of actually getting sick of seeing the sun?
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Thank you Chuckmann! I haven't listened to that song in a long, long, long time. I sat here and enjoyed "every minute."

Oh, and here's me in my shades...
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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yes im sorry, that one month (September) without fog, is only two degrees warmer than August the next hottest summer month. But I see now, the Fog plagued and gloomy august averaging 68 F high, is followed by a Fog-less, absolutely scorching September month averaging 70 F high (an enormous difference). so yes without fog everything changes and makes a previously 68 F month, a scorcher 95 F , good one.
Sorry, I spent too many Septembers with sweat running down my legs while sitting in class. And you must have missed the threads and comments on the Bay Area forum about the heat wave this last season. You must be new to the Bay Area. Oh, oops! I see you live in LA. Oh well.
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