California's future population projections (living, prices, vs.)

[UB50]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

The funniest commercial I ever saw was for a home security program where they featured a black family sitting down to eat dinner in what looked like a big tract home in the suburbs, and then it showed a masked white male trying to break in and commit a home-invasion. If it wasn't so stupidly antithetical to real life, it would have been funny.

Remember when LL Cool J beat up the guy who broke into his house? That guy was white. The family was black.

It may seem incredible to you, but there are a lot of white criminals. Just check out the mugshots online.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by UB50

It may seem incredible to you, but there are a lot of white criminals. Just check out the mugshots online.

Many don't have mugshots. White collar criminals tend to get away with a great deal of far-reaching crimes.

[TheCityTheBridge]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

The Demographic Future | Foreign Affairs

Even Joel Kotkin, who used to proclaim "the next 100 Million" Americans, has started to back off from that.

That article was written 4 years before the updated projections I posted. And the author quotes the Census Bureau projection, which would put the US at 374 million by 2030.

[ColdNHot75]

I firmly believe that in the future whites and non black Hispanics and probably Asians will be treated as one group due to them mixing but unfortunately blacks will always be part of a separate group due to the one drop rule. This is just my opinion and no offense to blacks but the truth is blacks and black mixed people are always considered black.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by TheCityTheBridge

That article was written 4 years before the updated projections I posted. And the author quotes the Census Bureau projection, which would put the US at 374 million by 2030.

We'll see who ends up being right.

I suspect deflation will speed up the leveling off and eventual decline in birth rates globally and will accelerate negative natural increase in the advanced countries.

We already see this in the US.

From 2008 onward, the absolute number of births has been in a decline. The inflection point was sharp. The Millennials and younger Xers are not having very many kids.

And we also see the impact of declining inbound immigration.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by TheCityTheBridge

Your math is a little off. More population growth in the United States comes from births than from immigration. This has been true since the 19th century. Experts expect this to remain true for another ~30 years.

Your numbers, too, are off. Immigration brings ~750,000 people per year to the US (down from highs of ~900,000 in the 2005-2006 timeframe.

More importantly, human population tends to grow. That has remained true for nearly all of human civilization. You can't cover your ears and pretend it won't happen. You have to figure out how to accommodate it. The worst way to cope is to refuse to build and increase density, a la coastal California, and let housing prices skyrocket as a result. California would be a much nicer place today without several decades of anti-growth policies at the state, and especially local, levels.

The numbers per decade are pulled from Wikipedia. I'm not going to worry too much about veracity of them, but I have seen multiple sources that have shown legal immigration accelerating since the 90s and topping a million a year. Illegal immigration - well that's an entirely different matter. As far as the population growing from 200 million in 1967 to 320 millioni now - the white population has been as slightly less than replacement fertility since the early 70s. Until recently they accounted for the vast majority of the country's population. If if they non-white population had a greater than replacement birth rate it certainly wouldn't have accounted for an additional 120 million people in 40 years. The majority of that growth is coming from immigrants (legal and otherwise) and their progeny. Human population in general tends to grow. That doesn't mean individual countries have to. In the case of the United States it was a conscious decision on the part of the government to encourage it the past four decades. I think its the biggest threat to our quality of life and the environment (but that's just my opinion). If you want a Duggar-like future on a national scale that's yours.

[oldtrader]

The figures show, that there is only one ethnic group that is declining, and that is the White population, and that is expected to continue to decline over the next 50 years. Hispanics, and Asians are where the population growth is. The hispanic population that is just a little ahead of white population in numbers, will be nearly double the white population in 50 years.

Look at the figures for Silicon Valley. Whites declining to the point that the growth of the Hispanic and Asian population combined will be 3 times the white population, and either one of them alone, will way outnumber the white population.

There will not be so much change, in remote counties such as Humboldt, which will remain predominantly white population.

For years, more people have moved from California to other states, than have moved to California from other states. The population increase in California has occurred strictly from immigration from other countries, nearly all Asian and Hispanic.

A big problem for California's future, is going to be good jobs that allow people in California to live with the high living costs the state has. Companies have been taking there good high pay jobs from the state, with a good example being Toyota. California has become so business unfriendly that California companies are putting their new facilities outside California. A good example, is the two that Apple are putting in other states. And Tesla putting their battery plant in Nevada. There alone go thousands of good paying jobs that California needs not only now, but for the future.

A few years ago, the Silicon Valley was the big leader in IT. Today there are several areas around the country, that are becoming very big in this field.

When it comes to which ports ship the most goods, California is quite a bit down the list. Port of South Louisiana and Houston, each ship 4 times the volume of California's biggest and busiest port at Long Beach. California is hardly a player in the import /export shipping business compared to some of the other states. One thing that will affect manufacturing of goods that will be traveling by ship, is that factories will be built a lot closer to the ports they will be shipping from and it is too expensive to ship by rail and truck to California. The U.S. is going ahead fast, on building higher priced goods that we export and ship by sea.

California is now known as the worst state to 3 worst in all lists, for being Business Unfriendly. Regulations and high taxes on business, is driving companies from California, and has reached the point the biggest California companies are not putting their new manufacturing facilities in California.

With the increase in population there is going to be an even bigger need for jobs, especially higher paid jobs to support the growth. If the governments out there don't make some changes to make the state business friendly, California is headed for big problems in the future.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

The figures show, that there is only one ethnic group that is declining, and that is the White population, and that is expected to continue to decline over the next 50 years. Hispanics, and Asians are where the population growth is. The hispanic population that is just a little ahead of white population in numbers, will be nearly double the white population in 50 years.

Look at the figures for Silicon Valley. Whites declining to the point that the growth of the Hispanic and Asian population combined will be 3 times the white population, and either one of them alone, will way outnumber the white population.

There will not be so much change, in remote counties such as Humboldt, which will remain predominantly white population.

For years, more people have moved from California to other states, than have moved to California from other states. The population increase in California has occurred strictly from immigration from other countries, nearly all Asian and Hispanic.

A big problem for California's future, is going to be good jobs that allow people in California to live with the high living costs the state has. Companies have been taking there good high pay jobs from the state, with a good example being Toyota. California has become so business unfriendly that California companies are putting their new facilities outside California. A good example, is the two that Apple are putting in other states. And Tesla putting their battery plant in Nevada. There alone go thousands of good paying jobs that California needs not only now, but for the future.

A few years ago, the Silicon Valley was the big leader in IT. Today there are several areas around the country, that are becoming very big in this field.

When it comes to which ports ship the most goods, California is quite a bit down the list. Port of South Louisiana and Houston, each ship 4 times the volume of California's biggest and busiest port at Long Beach. California is hardly a player in the import /export shipping business compared to some of the other states. One thing that will affect manufacturing of goods that will be traveling by ship, is that factories will be built a lot closer to the ports they will be shipping from and it is too expensive to ship by rail and truck to California. The U.S. is going ahead fast, on building higher priced goods that we export and ship by sea.

California is now known as the worst state to 3 worst in all lists, for being Business Unfriendly. Regulations and high taxes on business, is driving companies from California, and has reached the point the biggest California companies are not putting their new manufacturing facilities in California.

With the increase in population there is going to be an even bigger need for jobs, especially higher paid jobs to support the growth. If the governments out there don't make some changes to make the state business friendly, California is headed for big problems in the future.

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[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

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Yeah, if he keeps saying the same exact thing over and over for years, he must, at some point, start actually believing it.

[Tulemutt]

It's a robot, I have concluded. Perhaps merely a primitive 8-track loop?