Hotel "Maternity" California (Santa Barbara: 2015, apartments, rent)

[blauskies]

Where you can check in, give birth, leave and gain instant benefits.

Feds fight 'maternity tourism' with raids on California 'maternity hotels' - CNN.com

[cb73]

You mean like the Hispanics have been doing for years? We routinely send welfare checks and food stamps to P.O. boxes in San Ysidro to support all the "American" kids living with their families in Mexico.

So what's the difference?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by cb73

You mean like the Hispanics have been doing for years? We routinely send welfare checks and food stamps to P.O. boxes in San Ysidro to support all the "American" kids living with their families in Mexico.

So what's the difference?

I do not believe the OP was comparing one wrong to another.

Furthermore, this underhanded behavior is wrong no matter whom it is done by. My country was not built to be a grab bag where that the whole world takes what they can from it at the expense of actual members of this nation.

[bmw335xi]

The law needs to be changed and poof the problem is gone, no need for costly raids.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by cb73

You mean like the Hispanics have been doing for years? We routinely send welfare checks and food stamps to P.O. boxes in San Ysidro to support all the "American" kids living with their families in Mexico.

So what's the difference?

From another article on the subject and recent raids:

Wealthy couples from China, the Middle East, Africa and South Korea predominate the trade.
Feds crack down on Chinese 'birth tourism' | Fox News

Compare with:

It's true that many illegal immigrants are having children in the U.S. However, we are not convinced that "drop and leave" is a phenomenon. The data suggests that the motivator for illegal immigrants is the search for work and a better economic standing over the long term, not quickie citizenship for U.S.-born babies. Graham appears to be conflating two things -- a pattern of wealthy foreigners engaging in "birth tourism" using legal visas, and illegal immigration of poorer people from Mexico. In our view, failing to make the distinction exaggerates the alleged problem and uses inflammatory rhetoric to obscure legitimate policy questions. On balance, we rate his comment Half True.
Fact-checking the claims about 'anchor babies' and whether illegal immigrants 'drop and leave' | PolitiFact

The Myth of the “Anchor Baby”


It should be noted that citizenship by birth is not as carte blanche as you might believe. I often see comments on stories that talk as if a person can come across the border, have a child and stay in the country indefinitely. That isn’t the way it works.

You may not be aware that the mere birth of a child in North America does not guarantee the child nor their parents the right to live in the United States or Canada, at least not until the child reaches the age of majority. Put another way, the family can be and often is removed from the U.S. or Canada, even if they have a native born child, because they do not have lawful status in the country. Some time in the future, once the child becomes an adult, they will be able to return to the U.S. or Canada, but that is down the road. It does not prevent deportation now.

Once a citizen child reaches 21 in the case of the United States and 18 in the case of Canada, that child can return to North America and eventually sponsor their parents to legally immigrate to the country of citizenship. As for education in the meantime, unless the child can show legal guardianship or custody by a U.S. or Canadian citizen that would give them permission to reside in North America, they will not be able to study here, either.
Immigration: The Myth Of The 'Anchor Baby' - Forbes

Parents of citizen children who have been in the country for ten years or more can also apply for relief from deportation, though only 4,000 persons a year can receive relief status; as such, according to PolitFact, having a child in order to gain citizenship for the parents is "an extremely long-term, and uncertain, process."[24] Approximately 88,000 legal-resident parents of US citizen children were deported in the 2000s, most for minor criminal convictions.[29]
Anchor baby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Fiona8484]

I am all for banning this. Can we ban them from buying in the SF/SV area so Americans can have a crack at purchasing a home here?

[DMenscha]

Originally Posted by NYinCA2014

I am all for banning this. Can we ban them from buying in the SF/SV area so Americans can have a crack at purchasing a home here?

Because they are likely to be in the home buying market in the Bay Area? Please!

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by DMenscha

Because they are likely to be in the home buying market in the Bay Area? Please!

Well like the Japanese and Chinese did in Hawaii, they group purchase and over time they all end up with a house, but it takes years and years. Unlike Americans they don't care as they have long term goals for family not short term, want it now goals.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Well like the Japanese and Chinese did in Hawaii, they group purchase and over time they all end up with a house, but it takes years and years. Unlike Americans they don't care as they have long term goals for family not short term, want it now goals.

Couldn't Americans do the same thing? I have seen it happen with a few American families. My dad had a friend that was one of 8 kids and all of them did it. Another family I knew did it and started a business and did the same thing with the business. Eventually all of them had their own location. Imagine that, Americans doing the same thing as immigrants.

I do see it more with people from other nations though. My wifes family, (grand parents) immigrated here legally from Mexico, imagine that, some people actually follow the rules. Over time they were able to work and save and buy homes so all could have a home. more than 12 kids in that family. Another family we know added on to their home. They built an addition that included two small apartments. As the kids got older they would move into the apartment units and save for their own home. Now the parents rent out those two units and have some income coming in. That was years ago, today the city kind of frowns on that kind of activity, building apartment units on single family home lots.

A former boss of mine went in with 11 other couples, purchased a lot in Santa Barbara and built 12 condo units. To save money they did a lot of the work on their own. At the time few of them could afford to buy a home in the Santa Barbara area and that was maybe 30 years ago. Together they were able to do it though. After living there for almost 10 years my former boss was able to sell that unit and buy a single family home. This was not a family doing this but the idea works the same.