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Old 04-03-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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Because he, like every other politician in California, of both parties, is terrified of the Big Ag lobby.

Which represents a massive failure of leadership by all involved.

But the fact remains that the farmers who are growing cash crops for export (almonds, pistachios, alfalfa, etc.) are not a bunch of tree-hugging lefties. They are as right-wing as they come. If CA were run by Republicans, they'd be pouring money into Republican campaign coffers instead.
Which means why support either party as they are not that different.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: O.C.
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CA is the most important state in the country. We have a larger economy than most countries, the biggest state for agriculture, the leading state for tech and bio industries, a huge supply of untapped oil and our ports bring in a massive amount of goods to the entire country. The notion that it will be left to just dry up, wither and die is absurd.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA Formerly Clovis, CA
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The notion that it will be left to just dry up, wither and die is absurd.
Considering how long its taken for CA to do anything about it, I dont think its really that absurd.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Considering how long its taken for CA to do anything about it, I dont think its really that absurd.
Do you really want several hundred thousand Californians moving to the Puget Sound region?

I thought not.
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Old 04-03-2015, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA Formerly Clovis, CA
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Do you really want several hundred thousand Californians moving to the Puget Sound region?

I thought not.
Nope, its already crowded enuff as it is.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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CA is the most important state in the country. We have a larger economy than most countries, the biggest state for agriculture, the leading state for tech and bio industries, a huge supply of untapped oil and our ports bring in a massive amount of goods to the entire country. The notion that it will be left to just dry up, wither and die is absurd.
OK, where will water come from by the end of this year????

Reservoirs are down to maybe 1 years supply and evaporation will impact that. More people are born, grow up, graduate and .... that means more water use this year and every year. Where wil the water come from in the next few months to a year? Conservation will NOT do it.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:20 PM
 
Location: O.C.
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OK, where will water come from by the end of this year????

Reservoirs are down to maybe 1 years supply and evaporation will impact that. More people are born, grow up, graduate and .... that means more water use this year and every year. Where wil the water come from in the next few months to a year? Conservation will NOT do it.
You haven't figured out how mainstream media works yet? Its scare tactics and an excuse for Brown to raise water bills to make more money for the state...

No, California won't run out of water in a year - LA Times
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:34 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Nope, its already crowded enuff as it is.
And several hundred thousand of us are already here from California. Over 39,000 just during 2009-10.
More, however, are moving to Texas.

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA Formerly Clovis, CA
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And several hundred thousand of us are already here from California. Over 39,000 just during 2009-10.
More, however, are moving to Texas.

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States
And foreign immigration (legal and illegal) makes up the gap for domestic migrants leaving.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:07 PM
 
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Factory meat farming needs to be greatly reduced. I don't know why people aren't looking into this more.

To get a hamburger on your plate, an exponentially greater amount of water was used, as opposed to a plate of fruits or veggies.

I'm not saying everyone should go vegetarian, but let's be honest here -- far more people would benefit from eating LESS meat than from eating more. Unless someone's malnourished, no one NEEDS more meat.
Thank you.

I'm not a vegetarian, but we could all eat less meat. It would save water. It would also probably reduce obesity and heart disease as well, which would save a small fortune in health care costs.
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