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Old 05-10-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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The population is just going to keep growing and much of CA is a desert-environment.......a solution is needed.

Ditch the overpriced choo-choo and plan to build desalination plants!
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Old 05-10-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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And still people are moving to California in droves, over 1/4 million people annualy...what the attraction of high cost of living and short supplies of water are I will never understand. I'm staying out east, where it's nice and wet, not drying up into the Mojave Desert.
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Old 05-10-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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Most of the middle east uses desal. The have created oasis and Edens in the middle of a sand heap.

If they can do it, we could easily do and do it better.
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Old 05-11-2015, 02:16 AM
 
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Most of the middle east uses desal. The have created oasis and Edens in the middle of a sand heap.

If they can do it, we could easily do and do it better.
You really need to stop dreaming.

Water supply and sanitation in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Several regions of the "desalination capital of the world" only get water every 7-9 days.

The population of Saudi Arabia, which is 28.33 million or just ~30 million meanwhile the population of JUST California is ~40 million. People within Saudi Arabia are living on the EDGE on water supplies. It doesn't matter if California built 100 plants, it will never save California.
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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Nah, the same things were being said about peak oil a decade ago. "Oil will never be below $100 again" "Gasoline will be $10 a gallon in a decade".

The advances in horizontal drilling weren't even on the doom and gloomer's radar.

They said "stop dreaming" when I read 10 years ago that the U.S. had the ability to produce more oil that Saudi Arabia. They said "never gonna happen".

Malthusians just don't get technological advancement and innovation. They missed the green revolution, they missed the jet age, they are missing the age of water. You know three quarters of the earth's surface is covered by water?

Malthusians can't figure how to innovate, only cut. They always assume one fixed pie, never spending energy on how they might make the pie bigger or make two pies.

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Old 05-11-2015, 07:35 AM
 
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Then you just need to innovate and build all the new plants in less than 5 years. You just need $100 billion and a lot of time, get to it!

Quick-tip: It took 40 years to build 15 desalination plants.

The trucking companies will be thrilled to supply the water in the future to California.
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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It only took that long because of needless and obstructionist lawsuits. If it was a priority, it could be done in 3-5 years.

The Carlsbad plant will have only taken 2 years of actual construction time. The other 10 were just lawsuits.

You just have to have enough support from leadership and the moral fortitude to overcome the Malthusians, the sadists, and the misanthropes who get off on seeing people suffer.

If we had more people who wanted to good things and make people's lives better and easier, we'd already have these things done.
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Old 05-11-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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You really need to stop dreaming.

Water supply and sanitation in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Several regions of the "desalination capital of the world" only get water every 7-9 days.

The population of Saudi Arabia, which is 28.33 million or just ~30 million meanwhile the population of JUST California is ~40 million. People within Saudi Arabia are living on the EDGE on water supplies. It doesn't matter if California built 100 plants, it will never save California.
Don't inconvenience the armchair water experts here with facts like these. In their simplified worlds, you just type a few words on the keyboard and solve incredibly complex problems. Just vilify farmers, make them stop planting almonds and the drought is solved. Just build some desalination plants and the drought is solved. Just like that.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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^ Calix as well as my aunt and uncle believe this
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:30 PM
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Location: Tennessee
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Golf courses of course can reduce the amount of water they use. (underground irrigation would be a real saver)

Note that one golf course "saved 50 million gallons.
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Pelican Hill says it saves 50 million gallons of water each year — recycled water, mind you.
So 10 acres saved 50 million gallons. How much then did they use?

I mean, 10 acres and 50 million gallons means they "saved" 136,986 gallons a day. How much are they using then?
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