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Old 05-29-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Yet another display of smug, wishful thinking served with a side of ad hominen (reference to lobotomy). I never said AGW was not real. I challenged the notion that the drought was caused by AGW. I then added that AGW is overhyped and exxagerated. This is apparent to anyone who reads prior predictions.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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An aside: in that particular experiment, those frogs had been lobotomized. Almost universally left out piece of information. A perfectly normal frog does, indeed, get out of heating water.
Not in CA.
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Old 05-29-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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Not in CA.
^ Painfully true.

California drought: Hundreds turn out to oppose San Jose Water Company's strict drought rules - San Jose Mercury News

"Let's fight inevitability!"
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Reports indicate El Nino is strengthening. It's looking more and more like we will be drenched this winter.

Massive El Niño growing, say models
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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Reports indicate El Nino is strengthening. It's looking more and more like we will be drenched this winter.

Massive El Niño growing, say models
It is snow that is needed not rain. Gotta increase the sierra's snow pack.
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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It is snow that is needed not rain. Gotta increase the sierra's snow pack.

Um...you know that snow is just really cold rain, right?
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Um...you know that snow is just really cold rain, right?
Well it is really cold rain as in frozen and stays around for awhile, not just runs down hill and is only minimally available through the year. Snow is there for a long time each year and as it melts it supplies water for months as well as being absorbed by the soil and some flowing eventually into the aquifer. Lots of rain will keep plants green but will not help water availability for people much. Rain helps to some extent but not enough to break the drought for the State, unless of course it rains every day, day after day, week after week, month .... well I suspect that won't happen. One estimate was 10 inches of rain in one month to help.

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California storms help where it counts: Sierra snowpack - LA Times

It takes both rain and snow and unless a major change occurs it ain't likely to happen and rain in So Cal has less of an impact.
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Old 07-10-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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Well it is really cold rain as in frozen and stays around for awhile, not just runs down hill and is only minimally available through the year. Snow is there for a long time each year and as it melts it supplies water for months as well as being absorbed by the soil and some flowing eventually into the aquifer. Lots of rain will keep plants green but will not help water availability for people much. Rain helps to some extent but not enough to break the drought for the State, unless of course it rains every day, day after day, week after week, month .... well I suspect that won't happen. One estimate was 10 inches of rain in one month to help.

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California storms help where it counts: Sierra snowpack - LA Times

It takes both rain and snow and unless a major change occurs it ain't likely to happen and rain in So Cal has less of an impact.
Exactly something that nobody seems to be really paying attention to in the yearly increasing temperature of the mountains that is going to eventually end hydropower and the "Garden" section at the big name stores! I guess the sudden "renewed" interest in nuclear power has absolutely nothing to do with this lately. . Saltwater is plentiful for the nuclear power plants, maybe the nuclear power plants could also be used as desalination plants, just open your pockets and prepare for the increased income tax brackets. I'm sure nothing bad will happen in the event of that due earthquake of course.

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Old 07-11-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Wouldn't it be great if the state government put as much effort in a rain water capturing system as they did trying to convince us we need a high speed rail.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Um...you know that snow is just really cold rain, right?
I think the point is that it needs to be cold enough in the Sierras when the rain hits, that it will build a snowpack, AND that the snowpack won't melt early in spring season, due to more unseasonably warm weather. Water storage facilities should be built to take advantage of early spring snowmelts. Assuming we get snow on an annual basis, which it's looking like we won't in the future.
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