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Old 06-11-2015, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Within their own communities, of course they have the freedom to talk amongst themselves. You don't think there were any uncles and cousins, wives, mothers, brothers telling other family members not to go along with the deals?

Or are you saying their governments told them they had no choice but to plant Monsanto seeds?

What are you saying? It was a nice and true quote, but out of context here.
Yes, governments are easily bought by Monsanto, who then dictates to the populace how the deal in their communities will go down. Virtually no amount of protest, especially in vulnerable communities, can overcome the overwhelming influence such a powerhouse can and does exert, especially one that controls the food supply.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Yes, governments are easily bought by Monsanto, who then dictates to the populace how the deal in their communities will go down. Virtually no amount of protest, especially in vulnerable communities, can overcome the overwhelming influence such a powerhouse can and does exert, especially one that controls the food supply.
I just don't buy it. It's not logical.

There was a hilarious on-the-street Jimmy Kimmel segment, where they asked people if they were gluten-free. Oh yes, most of them said. Then they were asked what gluten was, and they didn't know.

I think what you are trying to assert is propaganda-driven. I will not believe that entire governments are made up of people who are too stupid to see through a con game. And then they tell their population that they must risk their family farms to take this deal. Or that entire countries have their only food sources supplied by Monsanto.

I think it's sexy right now to be anti-Monsanto, just like it's sexy to be gluten-free. But, I also don't think it's backed by logic.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Here's the gluten Jimmy Kimmel segment I was referring to:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdJFE1sp4Fw
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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I just don't buy it. It's not logical.

There was a hilarious on-the-street Jimmy Kimmel segment, where they asked people if they were gluten-free. Oh yes, most of them said. Then they were asked what gluten was, and they didn't know.

I think what you are trying to assert is propaganda-driven. I will not believe that entire governments are made up of people who are too stupid to see through a con game. And then they tell their population that they must risk their family farms to take this deal. Or that entire countries have their only food sources supplied by Monsanto.

I think it's sexy right now to be anti-Monsanto, just like it's sexy to be gluten-free. But, I also don't think it's backed by logic.
Corporations buying American elections and paying lawmakers to do their bidding isn't necessarily logical either...but it's reality (see: Citizens United). So if it happens here, surely the same occurs in much poorer countries, to great effect. That would be logical.
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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If farms, groceries and transportation could improve their food handling efficiency, more people could be fed exclusively through local farms. According to this new article, 40% of the food grown in America goes to waste: Why does almost half of America’s food go to waste? [pbs.org]

Not all of it is avoidable of course but 40% is still pretty astounding. Wasted food is wasted water too. According to the article, a few good farms have put a fair amount of effort into reducing their waste, donating to food banks.

I say widen some of the holes for empty oil wells and dump some of the waste food and other cellulose-based goods in there. Then pay the farmers in carbon tax credits for sequestering carbon. Of course, this is no good in a standard landfill where methane easily escapes into the atmosphere.
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