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San Diego 62 56.88%
Orange County 41 37.61%
None 6 5.50%
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I've not seen off-shore oil rigs in OC. This comparison to Texas is comical given that oil rigs started in CA and have decreased in numbers (and are mainly in LA, Ventura, Santa Barbara etc.). You have an irrational hatred for OC, obvious to all.

Your GDP numbers have no source. OC is part of metro LA and thus it's numbers are intermixed with LA's.
Here's a nice video showing how close they are to shore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgRmRIdgUfI


Next time you're in HB, look towards Catalina Island:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Location...alifornia.html
Offshore Oil Rigs Taken From Huntington Beach California Stock Photo | Getty Images

You can even see them in Google streeview:
https://goo.gl/maps/AKZKQyHJvR52
https://goo.gl/maps/XNxmmb5AgeT2


As for GDP sources...

Orange County GCP (see page 3): http://www.fullerton.edu/cdr/ocff.pdf

You can look up SD's GDP here: BEA Regional Economic Accounts

Last edited by sav858; 10-18-2016 at 04:29 PM..
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Ontario, California
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If you ignore the oil rigs, do you still consider the beaches in SD better than OC? I really hate the beaches in SD because they tend to be rocky (this can be really painful to play along the water line) or are off a cliff. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's just my experience and I haven't been to every single one.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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If you ignore the oil rigs, do you still consider the beaches in SD better than OC? I really hate the beaches in SD because they tend to be rocky (this can be really painful to play along the water line) or are off a cliff. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's just my experience and I haven't been to every single one.
you don't see the oil rigs (and don't even know they are there) like in Santa Barbara where sometimes asphalt like substance got washed up
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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you don't see the oil rigs (and don't even know they are there) like in Santa Barbara where sometimes asphalt like substance got washed up
Like this? Watch your step: tar balls dotting the coast - The Orange County Register
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC View Post
I've not seen off-shore oil rigs in OC. This comparison to Texas is comical given that oil rigs started in CA and have decreased in numbers (and are mainly in LA, Ventura, Santa Barbara etc.). You have an irrational hatred for OC, obvious to all.

Your GDP numbers have no source. OC is part of metro LA and thus it's numbers are intermixed with LA's.
His source is a link that provides a GCP (not GDP) "estimate". It's not based on any sort of factual reality. It's a fake metric not recognized by the federal government that is an "estimate" LOL.

Bay natives obsession with hating greater LA is very odd. Strikes me as unhealthy.

Yea I got a good LOL out of him hyping out ONE oil rig as if that compares to SD's industrial coast, that is filled with pollution spewing vessals and nuclear powered vessels with atomic war heads, and a naval airfield with jet pollution. LoL

Dude is clearly reaching beyond his capabilities.

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Old 10-19-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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SD does have more heavy waterfront industry compared to OC for all the obvious reasons. Ever notice how nasty the beach water is from Imperial Beach up to say around Mission Beach or La Jolla, and starts to clean up towards Encinitas and Carlsbad?

I trigger a lot of the filth coming up from TJ, our Navy vessels dumping crap in the ocean, the industrial waterfront in Downtown, and just plain ole run off into the ocean. The waters are much cleaner the further up the coast you go.

I haven't really been to the beaches in OC lately only on a handful of occasions over the years, but the beaches seemed a lot cleaner and stinks less than the ones down here. Less bums too.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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His source is a link that provides a GCP (not GDP) "estimate". It's not based on any sort of factual reality. It's a fake metric not recognized by the federal government that is an "estimate" LOL.

Bay natives obsession with hating greater LA is very odd. Strikes me as unhealthy.

Yea I got a good LOL out of him hyping out ONE oil rig as if that compares to SD's industrial coast, that is filled with pollution spewing vessals and nuclear powered vessels with atomic war heads, and a naval airfield with jet pollution. LoL

Dude is clearly reaching beyond his capabilities.
At least I provided a source. BEA doesn't release GDP at the county level and that's the closest thing I could find. You on the other hand provided no actual number, just claimed it was bigger than SD's, or source for Orange County's GDP and appear to be just making stuff up again.

Industrial "bayshore" you mean? Try and learn the difference between an ocean and a bay.

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Old 10-20-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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SD does have more heavy waterfront industry compared to OC for all the obvious reasons. Ever notice how nasty the beach water is from Imperial Beach up to say around Mission Beach or La Jolla, and starts to clean up towards Encinitas and Carlsbad?

I trigger a lot of the filth coming up from TJ, our Navy vessels dumping crap in the ocean, the industrial waterfront in Downtown, and just plain ole run off into the ocean. The waters are much cleaner the further up the coast you go.

I haven't really been to the beaches in OC lately only on a handful of occasions over the years, but the beaches seemed a lot cleaner and stinks less than the ones down here. Less bums too.
They're not. On average over the last 5 years San Diego has a higher % of beaches rated with an "A" for water quality than OC according to Heal the Bay.
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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They're not. On average over the last 5 years San Diego has a higher % of beaches rated with an "A" for water quality than OC according to Heal the Bay.
I call BS on your unsourced garbage.

I found this on the Heal the Bay website. Hint: It puts OC on top.


"Most of the California coastline earned A grades throughout the summer reporting period. Some 86% of L.A. County beaches received A grades for the summer. Beaches in Orange County earned A’s at 94% of locations. San Diego County also scored very well, with 86% of its monitored sites earning A marks in the summer."

Source: Heal the Bay's 2016 Beach Report Card | Heal the Bay
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I call BS on your unsourced garbage.

I found this on the Heal the Bay website. Hint: It puts OC on top.


"Most of the California coastline earned A grades throughout the summer reporting period. Some 86% of L.A. County beaches received A grades for the summer. Beaches in Orange County earned A’s at 94% of locations. San Diego County also scored very well, with 86% of its monitored sites earning A marks in the summer."

Source: Heal the Bay's 2016 Beach Report Card | Heal the Bay
Unsourced? I named my source which is the exact same source you are using.

You clearly didn't read and/or comprehend my post. Let me try again:

On average over the last 5 years San Diego has a higher % of beaches rated with an "A" for water quality than OC according to Heal the Bay.

That sentence means I was looking at 5 YEAR AVERAGES, not just one random year as that makes no sense. If you actually go look at the actual report instead of just looking at their blog you will find this:

5-year average of A-rated beaches in Summer Dry weather
SD: 95%
OC: 91%

5-year average of A-rated beaches in Winter Dry weather
SD: 94%
OC: 81%

5-year average of A-rated beaches in Wet weather
SD: 68%
OC 50%
This probably isn't helped by the fact that OC has rivers made of concrete that just funnel pollution into the ocean as fast as possible.

http://www.healthebay.org/sites/defa...2016_final.pdf

So recapping, OC has lower GDP and dirtier beaches ON AVERAGE than SD.

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