Relocating: Small, leftist affordable town? (Los Angeles, South Gate: renting, house, job market)

[ladyhen]

Originally Posted by DMenscha

Is Willits still as FARRRR out as it used to be? Mendocino?

OH YEAH. Just moved from there in November. Lots of lefties, hippies. activists, pot growers, protests every day of the week. Good natural foods store (Mariposa Market), a local theater, and only 33 miles to the ocean (takes about 45 minutes.)

There are about 5,000 people in town and another 5,000 in Brooktrails - plus all the people that live up in the hills. I wouldn't say it's very affordable, but by California standards, it's not outrageous.

Wasn't our cup of tea (being very conservative folks ourselves), but sounds like it would be a good fit for you.

You might even consider Garberville up in Humboldt County (although it is more isolated.)

[NorthernCalifornia]

Garberville is a wacky place, if it was for you I'm sure you'd already know about it. Also not on the coast, very hot in summer.

[rubyskye]

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... to give you a taste of areas in Northern California that you may find suits you.

[Desertho]

Leftists couldn't run the Soviet Union, much less a small California town. If you want affordable with no Republican in sight, try the ghetto, i.e., Compton, Bell Gardens, South Gate and any one of the colonias next to farms. But you wanted "hippies", i.e., white. Good luck.

[rubyskye]

"hippy" doesn't = white. Leftist doesn't = white. How silly. And a true "hippie" doesn't want to run anything ..... and doesn't want to be run either by the powers that be.
Words are tricky. My perception of hippy and leftist is probably quite different than yours.
Maybe counter-culture is a better way of naming those who don't buy into the mainstream trip and there are many different ways to express ones "counter-culture-ness". The word or idea of "hippy" evokes a pretty stereotypical image that was born quite along time ago. The forms and expressions may have changed but the essence of what the hippy movement was about doesn't change.
And there are still places in California (and everywhere) where the spirit of the 60's (if you will) is alive. It's overshadowed by the money hungry, materialistic, "controllers" but we're still holding the vision. libmom needs to hold her vision and dream of California and she just might find what she's looking for.

[Capt. Dan]

rubyskye--AMEN!
"hippie" was not "a look" or a way of dressing. It was a state of mind and a set of ideals and how to go about achieving them without destroying others or the planet in the process. without the "hippies" alot of people might not have the equalities they enjoy now. The earth would most probably be much more polluted and another 55,000 young people would have died in Vietnam. The world probably would not have been able to find out the true extent of John Lennons talents. And politicians would have kept on screwing up the country if the hippies had not been willing to stand up to them. Not every hippie had long hair and not every one of them did drugs. Oh! such sterotypes!

[Desertho]

Nixon and Kissinger ended Vietnam, not hippies.

[rubyskye]

Nixon ended himself because he was a dirty lying conspiratorial rat. Kissinger flew around in airplanes alot.
You cannot deny that the peace movement of the late 60's and early 70's made it clear that a large percentage of our population felt that the Vietnam war was useless. and tragic. The peace movement did have an impact.
It's difficult today to not be discouraged but still the counter culture of that time planted seeds that did bloom.
The cynicism that is so prevalent today is not helpful to say the least. It takes alot of will and courage to not give into it that cynicism.
To be independent in your thinking and have strength in that independence takes courage. There are way too many sheeple.
The younger people of this time may once again be agents of change. Let's hope. The empire is crumbling. The nation state has failed. What's next? Will we be able to come together again and create new social structures that are sustainable and effective?
Sorry to be preachy .... just expressin myself.

[Impalacat]

Sounds like Berzerkley would fit you fine.

[Desertho]

Originally Posted by rubyskye

Nixon ended himself because he was a dirty lying conspiratorial rat. Kissinger flew around in airplanes alot.

That doesn't change the FACT that they ended the war. And got a Nobel Peace Prize to boot.

Originally Posted by rubyskye

You cannot deny that the peace movement of the late 60's and early 70's made it clear that a large percentage of our population felt that the Vietnam war was useless. and tragic. The peace movement did have an impact.

It wasn't a peace movement, it was an anti-American movement. Period. The pressure applied is not for the Communist to stop the violence, but only for the US to do so.

Originally Posted by rubyskye

It's difficult today to not be discouraged but still the counter culture of that time planted seeds that did bloom.
The cynicism that is so prevalent today is not helpful to say the least. It takes alot of will and courage to not give into it that cynicism.

"Turn on, tune in, drop out"-Some hippie. Nothing can be more cynical than convince people that they have no responsibility in this world besides smoke pot. Hippies made cynicism fashionable. They made a discipline out of "questioning authority" when in fact the state does have an interest in pursuing the general safety of its citizens. It is heartening to me that the next generation has challenged the politically-correct fascist rule of hippies in universities. They're questioning your authority.

Originally Posted by rubyskye

To be independent in your thinking and have strength in that independence takes courage. There are way too many sheeple.

You're wearing the only button printed for sheeples: SHEEPLE #1. Your the worst kind of sheeple, the one who thinks there is novelty in their idea but in fact, just parrot ever line from every parody ever done on hippies.

Originally Posted by rubyskye

The younger people of this time may once again be agents of change. Let's hope. The empire is crumbling. The nation state has failed. What's next? Will we be able to come together again and create new social structures that are sustainable and effective?

We are agents of change. We are dismantling the selfish self-centered self-absorbed world of hippies. We are returning to traditions that their fathers and grandfathers have followed. We are ridiculing hippies.

Once that "empire" crumbles and the nation-state fails, will you hippies be there to take of the hundreds of millions that will be poor as a result? Not all of us can live on tofu you know. Will you be there to provide financial aid so young people can go to college? Or are we gonna go back to re-education camps a la Pol Pot and the Soviet Union.

There's a reason people are hippies; there are always people who never thinks about the consequences.