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Old 10-19-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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I just asked for his source, not his bias opinion. Insultes are his MO. My posts may get deleted but thats do to responding and falls into fighting IMHO

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Old 10-20-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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I agree native plants that are native to Mediterranean climates are fine.

However, tell that to those who tear up a beautiful green space to pave it over with gravel and a couple of out of place cactus, ugly and climatologically inappropriate. Not to mention that a rocked over yard is bad for the soil and the equivalent of paving it over.

TURF TERMINATORS HAS GOTTEN RICH TURNING YARDS INTO GRAVEL, BUT IS IT CREATING BLIGHT?

However, some grass is actually good to have, the war on grass is waged by those who hate the idea of suburban life and will use the "drought" to try and destroy a way of life. Using perpetual "drought" is a convenient and powerful tool.
I would agree.

I think I would be down for getting those rebates turned into plants only initiatives...maybe more focus on native plant propagation? I could see yards like that one blanketed with a mixture of Artemisia californica and a low growing Ceanothus for example. Throw in some might Hesperoyucca whipplei or Dudleyas in a rock outcrop. Native-esque ground cover enough.

Hell maybe just put in a bunch of rosemary.

Besides-everywhere would then smell amazing.
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Old 10-20-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: USA
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I agree native plants that are native to Mediterranean climates are fine.

However, tell that to those who tear up a beautiful green space to pave it over with gravel and a couple of out of place cactus, ugly and climatologically inappropriate. Not to mention that a rocked over yard is bad for the soil and the equivalent of paving it over.

There was even an unscrupulous company that was taking rebates and leaving paved over gravel yards in their wake. However, city "leaders" in Pacoima actually gave them an award trumpeting that they were "helping us change, and leading the way". The blight created by acres and acres of construction gravel in peoples yards where greenspace once flourished is tragic and environmentally destructive. However, it was encouraged for a while by politicos who hated a green lawn so much, they'd rather see green paved over with rock.

TURF TERMINATORS HAS GOTTEN RICH TURNING YARDS INTO GRAVEL, BUT IS IT CREATING BLIGHT?

However, some grass is actually good to have, the war on grass is waged by those who hate the idea of suburban life and will use the "drought" to try and destroy a way of life. Using perpetual "drought" is a convenient and powerful tool.
But the problem is that to have any credibility on this issue, lawn lovers would actually have to transform their own yards into Mediterranean and native Californian gardens instead of climatologically inappropriate turf grass. Somehow, I don't think that most of the people who argue so strongly against gravel are doing anything of the sort.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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But the problem is that to have any credibility on this issue, lawn lovers would actually have to transform their own yards into Mediterranean and native Californian gardens instead of climatologically inappropriate turf grass. Somehow, I don't think that most of the people who argue so strongly against gravel are doing anything of the sort.
You're not necessarily addressing a very sophisticated audience when discussing alternatives to 50's suburbia to it's staunch cheerleaders in here, you may have noticed. The pretty shiny green stuff will not go away quietly.
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