Barstow, The Next Great California Megapolis (Ontario, Rancho Cucamonga: houses, to buy, subsidized)

[AndyChrono]

Wasn't this the plot of the Superman movie? Buy up worthless land and then nuke the San Andreas fault to sink the current shoreline and then sit back and enjoy your new high value coastal property.

[Podo944]

Originally Posted by AndyChrono

Wasn't this the plot of the Superman movie? Buy up worthless land and then nuke the San Andreas fault to sink the current shoreline and then sit back and enjoy your new high value coastal property.

That's IT!!

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Wasn't that also A View to a Kill?

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by BuildingsR'Us

History shows, even undesireable locations experience growth with an increase in population. Look at how Victorville and Lancaster grew in the 2000s. The 15 freeway is 3 lanes all the way to Barstow. Lancaster has a Metrolink station.

Look at the urban design of Greater Tokyo. They have Small urban cores in a place that might seem isolated, but because its connected to rapid transportation, it becomes an economically smart choice to live there for affordable housing, and a slower pace of life, while being within reach of many job centers. Barstow would be the center of Vegas, Phoenix and The Inland Empire.

Please somebody take me seriously and actually discuss this topic/theory. The High Desert is the next Inland Empire. The Inner-Inland Empire.

I could see an increase in population in the area for low cost housing, but that presupposes the train actually starts at LA, and not Victorville.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Let's say people commute into L.A. by train from Barstow -- how do they get to work if it's several miles away from the train station?

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Let's say people commute into L.A. by train from Barstow -- how do they get to work if it's several miles away from the train station?

That is the same problem a person taking Metrolink would have, isn't it? I suppose it depends on whether it goes to Union Station.

[acercode]

Originally Posted by BuildingsR'Us

History shows, even undesireable locations experience growth with an increase in population. Look at how Victorville and Lancaster grew in the 2000s. The 15 freeway is 3 lanes all the way to Barstow. Lancaster has a Metrolink station.

Look at the urban design of Greater Tokyo. They have Small urban cores in a place that might seem isolated, but because its connected to rapid transportation, it becomes an economically smart choice to live there for affordable housing, and a slower pace of life, while being within reach of many job centers. Barstow would be the center of Vegas, Phoenix and The Inland Empire.

Please somebody take me seriously and actually discuss this topic/theory. The High Desert is the next Inland Empire. The Inner-Inland Empire.

How did Victorville and Lancaster grow exactly? They are basically a poorer version of LA suburbs with clusters of cookie cutter homes, restaurants, box stores and some car dealerships. I also visit them often and they are far from a "megapolis." Sure, population returned after the real estate crash of early 90s but they're still far from being considered a fully grown city.

Barstow is even farther from LA and just 15-20% population of Victorville and Lancaster.

Seriously, you must have some real estate in Barstow you are trying to unload.

[Elliott_CA]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

High Speed rail will never be built. This is a mountanious state the trains can't climb the mountains.

Please contact the XpressWest company (XpressWest Website) right away and tell them, along with the Chinese investors, and the agencies that have already issued permits, that their Victorville-to-Las Vegas high speed rail plan won't work because V8 Vega says the grades are too steep.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

Please contact the XpressWest company (XpressWest Website) right away and tell them, along with the Chinese investors, and the agencies that have already issued permits, that their Victorville-to-Las Vegas high speed rail plan won't work because V8 Vega says the grades are too steep.

Your post might carry weight if the train originated in LA, not middle-of-nowhere Victorville. V8Vega, despite his well known bluster, correctly articulated that California is mountainous and thus difficult to build trains on. If the train cannot overcome the Cajon Pass etc. and originate in LA, the train is useless. Moreover, Barstow and the high desert will get little benefit in terms of permanent population growth since the train originates there.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Your post might carry weight if the train originated in LA, not middle-of-nowhere Victorville. V8Vega, despite his well known bluster, correctly articulated that California is mountainous and thus difficult to build trains on. If the train cannot overcome the Cajon Pass etc. and originate in LA, the train is useless. Moreover, Barstow and the high desert will get little benefit in terms of permanent population growth since the train originates there.

Yes driving to Victorville, means leaving your car there and paying for parking and ... well some will to avoid the drive, but that just makes Victorville a large parking lot. It would also drop the number of people the train could carry if in LA, reducing profitability.