The Horrible scenery Of California's Central Valley (Fresno, Sacramento: homes, mall)

[Flovis]

Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas

its not the scenery, its the heat and humidity once winter is gone

depends on the year.
some years can feel like vegas, while other years don't feel much hotter than the south bay.
yes, the valley is hot, but the rep is a bit overblown.

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by Flovis

depends on the year.
some years can feel like vegas, while other years don't feel much hotter than the south bay.
yes, the valley is hot, but the rep is a bit overblown.

It is overblown, because most people in California compare it to the coastal areas, so YES it feels hot. However, if you compare it to Phoenix or Houston or Dallas or any high humidity area (which is anything east of El Paso), its actually pretty comfortable.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by slo1318

It is overblown, because most people in California compare it to the coastal areas, so YES it feels hot. However, if you compare it to Phoenix or Houston or Dallas or any high humidity area (which is anything east of El Paso), its actually pretty comfortable.

In other words, set the bar lower, then proceed to compare?

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

In other words, set the bar lower, then proceed to compare?

What do you mean set the bar lower. Its all relative. Hot in the Bay Area isnt the same as hot in Dallas.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by slo1318

What do you mean set the bar lower. Its all relative. Hot in the Bay Area isnt the same as hot in Dallas.

Right, compared to a place with nice weather, it's crap. Compared to crap weather, it's nice.

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Right, compared to a place with nice weather, it's crap. Compared to crap weather, it's nice.

Well, realizing when you say crap weather under those standards you are indicting the majority of the country!
So if its considered that coastal California has better weather than 95% of the country, then I'd take a guess and say Sacramento has better weather than 75% of the country based on that standard.

[Count David]

Originally Posted by slo1318

Well, realizing when you say crap weather under those standards you are indicting the majority of the country!
So if its considered that coastal California has better weather than 95% of the country, then I'd take a guess and say Sacramento has better weather than 75% of the country based on that standard.

Half the nation (east of 100W) is humid in the summer, so that takes care of that.

Another 25% of the remaining part of the country has bitter cold winters, and/or frequent snow. That removes Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, the western halves of Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, the eastern halves of Washington/Oregon and the northern halves of Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico.

Remove the western halves of Washington and Oregon, and the western third of Northern California to around say Santa Rosa, because of the gloom and/or rain 6-9 months of the year.

Now, chop off Southern Nevada, the Mojave Desert, the other SE California deserts, Southern Arizona/New Mexico, and West Texas. All of these are far too hot for too long.

What's left? The Central Valley, the Inland Empire, and the California coast. Sac beats Redding (WAY too HOT), Sac beats Fresno and Bakersfield (both hotter than Sac). Sac is at least relatively mild in the winter, the IE can still have spells of heat, and has more unreliable rain. So Sac beats IE. Sac doesn't beat anything on the coast, but it DOES beat everything else (as we have just proven ).

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

Half the nation (east of 100W) is humid in the summer, so that takes care of that.

Another 25% of the remaining part of the country has bitter cold winters, and/or frequent snow. That removes Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, the western halves of Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, the eastern halves of Washington/Oregon and the northern halves of Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico.

Remove the western halves of Washington and Oregon, and the western third of Northern California to around say Santa Rosa, because of the gloom and/or rain 6-9 months of the year.

Now, chop off Southern Nevada, the Mojave Desert, the other SE California deserts, Southern Arizona/New Mexico, and West Texas. All of these are far too hot for too long.

What's left? The Central Valley, the Inland Empire, and the California coast. Sac beats Redding (WAY too HOT), Sac beats Fresno and Bakersfield (both hotter than Sac). Sac is at least relatively mild in the winter, the IE can still have spells of heat, and has more unreliable rain. So Sac beats IE. Sac doesn't beat anything on the coast, but it DOES beat everything else (as we have just proven ).

That's right David, I was low balling my numbers

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by slo1318

Well, realizing when you say crap weather under those standards you are indicting the majority of the country!
So if its considered that coastal California has better weather than 95% of the country, then I'd take a guess and say Sacramento has better weather than 75% of the country based on that standard.

Very good point. Sacramento really does have fantastic weather.

[eccotecc]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

Very good point. Sacramento really does have fantastic weather.

Sacramento has nice weather but also has spill over from the Bay Area. It's as congested as other Bay Area locations. I'll take the central valley.

Just another photo of this horrible ugly area. Please don't move here!



Now, doesn't this look boring?