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Originally Posted by neutrino78x
Yeah but I can also close before he shoots me. Remember once I am inside of the 21 foot range, I can close and defeat him before he can shoot me.
You keep repeating this over and over. Have you ever done this where you tried to attack someone with a gun 21 feet away and succeeded? When they were already intent on shooting you?
I have a hard time believing you would succeed a very high percentage.
Even if you could, then you would be much more highly skilled than most people. Most people could not so you getting your way would just put them in greater danger. A bit selfish don't you think?
Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone else.
He's not correct. Unless he's counting two victims as a mass shooting.
I've told you many times. A semiautomatic pistol has a valid self defense application. A semiautomatic rifle does not.
But what do I know, I just have extensive US Navy training in firearms. But I must be lying about that because it didn't result in me being a gun nut.
Yes, but wasn't the 2nd deadliest mass shooting in the U.S committed by handguns? Don't handguns kill thousands more per year? Your US Navy logic doesn't make any sense.
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by aslowdodge
You keep repeating this over and over. Have you ever done this where you tried to attack someone with a gun 21 feet away and succeeded?
No one has ever successfully attacked a man who has a firearm and defeated him unless they themselves had a firearm. If you have a firearm you are unstoppable.
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Even if you could, then you would be much more highly skilled than most people.
Indeed, very few people in this world can run up to someone and hit them in the kidney and choke them out if that person happens to have a firearm. Merely holding a firearm in your hands means that no one can defeat you unless they also have a firearm.
No one has ever successfully attacked a man who has a firearm and defeated him unless they themselves had a firearm. If you have a firearm you are unstoppable.
Indeed, very few people in this world can run up to someone and hit them in the kidney and choke them out if that person happens to have a firearm. Merely holding a firearm in your hands means that no one can defeat you unless they also have a firearm.
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Wow. Neutrino is a super hero... maybe Iron Man in disguise!
Here's some claims this guy has made:
- Was a Navy sailor who served on a submarine. Consequently, he has advanced training in the use of automatic weapons.
- Is a UNIX expert and guru who has received numerous high paying job offers from some of the best Silicon Valley firms, but has so far spurned their offers because he's "looking for the right job". Instead he chooses to stay at a job that pays him $16,000 annually, and lives in a 2 bedroom apartment with 3 room mates.
- Is trained at close quarters combat, and can easily and expertly disarm a man armed with a gun with a few secret ninjitsu techniques he learned as an expert martial artist.
Is there any doubt neutrino may be a secret Bourne Identity type of operative?
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by CaliRestoration
Yes, but wasn't the 2nd deadliest mass shooting in the U.S committed by handguns? Don't handguns kill thousands more per year?
Oh yeah a rifle doesn't impart any more kinetic energy to the projectile than does a pistol. A semiautomatic rifle is not a weapon with the power of a rifle that fires as rapidly as a pistol. Therefore it is a complete mystery why someone who has knowledge of firearms would think that a semiautoamtic rifle is any more dangerous to the public than a semiautomatic pistol.
Common sense says that there should no limit whatsoever on what type of firearms are available to civilians, since firearms are harmless toys and pose no danger to anyone.
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Your US Navy logic doesn't make any sense.
Your gun nut logic makes so much sense! It is so compelling that no one could possibly disagree with you! If anyone disagrees with you, it means they have never fired a fully automatic rifle and did not receive training and qualification in firearms! They do not have training in close quarters combat using firearms on a Naval vessel. Anyone who disagrees with CaliRestoration on gun control clearly knows nothing about firearms! If anyone has any experience with firearms, ipso facto they are a gun nut who doesn't think we should have any degree of gun control at all! If they do think there should be some degree of reasonable gun control, that means they have never fired a gun in their life! I totally agree! That makes SO MUCH SENSE dude! There are no hunters who think we need to do more about gun violence! None of the parents of Sandyhoook victims who are now demanding action are gun owners! It is totally a lie that most of them are hunters! If they were, they would know that it is normal for a psycho to go into a school and shoot your kids!
Oh yeah, and the Constitution of the United States has no content other than the 2nd Amendment!
The Supreme Court did not rule that "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or
laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms".
The guy who wrote that majority opinion was totally NOT a gun owner! He never went hunting! He was definitely NOT a conservative! He was definitely NOT appointed by Bush! He was definitely NOT pro-life! Despite having decades of experience in the legal field, he knows nothing about the law or the Constitution!
Yeah, total sense dude! Your gun nut "logic" makes total sense! No one could disagree, and if they do it means they have no training or experience with firearms!
General Colin Powell, US Army combat veteran, clearly has no experience with firearms either! If he did he would never support consideration of a ban on civilian purchase of semiautomatic rifles!
All veterans agree with you dude! Any of us who disagree are not really veterans! We are lying about our service! Clearly, General Colin Powell was never REALLY in the United States Army, and has not REALLY experienced combat, otherwise he would agree with your asinine, malformed opinions!
Oh yeah a rifle doesn't impart any more kinetic energy to the projectile than does a pistol. A semiautomatic rifle is not a weapon with the power of a rifle that fires as rapidly as a pistol. Therefore it is a complete mystery why someone who has knowledge of firearms would think that a semiautoamtic rifle is any more dangerous to the public than a semiautomatic pistol.
But Seung Hui Cho used a pistol to kill 33 people rapidly, committing the 2nd deadliest mass shooting in U.S history.
So does it matter if one has less kinectic energy if both can kill lots of people really quickly?
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The Supreme Court did not rule that "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.
Has the court ruled or passed an opinion on Semi-automatic rifles?
Also, where did you receive your ninja training to learn how to disarm armed gunman with such ease? Do you know Jason Bourne personally?
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by CaliRestoration
But Seung Hui Cho used a pistol to kill 33 people rapidly, committing the 2nd deadliest mass shooting in U.S history.
So does it matter if one has less kinectic energy if both can kill lots of people really quickly?
You're totally right dude! It doesn't matter because a rifle is no more likely to kill someone with one shot to center of mass than is a pistol!
In fact, the US Army is going to stop issuing rifles to soldiers, and is now going to issue only semiautomatic pistols.
This is because CaliRestoration explained to them that they know nothing about firearms, and a semiautomatic pistol is just as effective in killing large numbers of people as a semiautomatic rifle!
Wow dude you know so much about firearms, I can't possibly disagree because your "logic" is so compelling!
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Has the court ruled or passed an opinion on Semi-automatic rifles?
The court didn't rule that the 2nd Amendment is limited and that it is perfectly legal to place restrictions on the commercial sale of firearms! You're totally right dude!
And it is totally true that you know more about the Constitution than the Supreme Court! A conservative Supreme Court justice with decades of experience should always consult with CaliRestoration before ruling.
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Also, where did you receive your ninja training to learn how to disarm armed gunman with such ease? Do you know Jason Bourne personally?
That's right man, only Jason Bourne can fight! There are not martial arts studios all over the world! It is a lie that the US Marine Corps Martial Arts Program trains Marines to disarm the enemy!
Even if the Marine Corps really did train this move -- which they totally do not -- no one should think it would ever work, because the Marines know nothing about combat or fighting.
Clearly, they should have asked CaliRestoration before integrating this move into their training, as he knows even more about martial arts than he does about firearms!
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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oh yeah and Dan Inosanto is lying about having served in the 101st Airborne! He is lying about being a master of Filipino martial arts, and he is lying about having studied martial arts with Bruce Lee! He clearly knows nothing about fighting, and has no business making this official police training video, made with official approval of the Los Angeles Police Department, because neither he nor LAPD knows anything about fighting or firearms!
Since CaliRestoration did not know about the 21 foot rule that means that it is not real! No one who served in the Army or knows anything about firearms or martial arts would say that someone closer than 21 feet can defeat an armed man before he is able to draw his gun and fire!
You're totally right dude! Your gun nut "logic" makes total sense!
You're totally right dude! It doesn't matter because a rifle is no more likely to kill someone with one shot to center of mass than is a pistol!
In fact, the US Army is going to stop issuing rifles to soldiers, and is now going to issue only semiautomatic pistols.
Are combat situations involving trained soldiers the same as mass shootings against civilian populations?
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The court didn't rule that the 2nd Amendment is limited and that it is perfectly legal to place restrictions on the commercial sale of firearms! You're totally right dude!
And it is totally true that you know more about the Constitution than the Supreme Court! A conservative Supreme Court justice with decades of experience should always consult with CaliRestoration before ruling.
So did the courts ever make an opinion on semi-automatic rifles? I thought they decided to let the states handle that.
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That's right man, only Jason Bourne can fight! There are not martial arts studios all over the world! It is a lie that the US Marine Corps Martial Arts Program trains Marines to disarm the enemy!
So a 78 year old man with a walking cane can be just like Jason Bourne and use ninja marine CQB techniques to take down gun men?
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by CaliRestoration
Are combat situations involving trained soldiers the same as mass shootings against civilian populations?
They are, since you want civilians to have military weapons! No one could reasonably have any objection to that! Civilians should have exactly the same weapons that we use in the military! Civilians are attacked by military units on US soil on a regular basis! In fact, just yesterday a military unit from China, ten men with fully automatic rifles, came in here to rob my apartment! The US Armed Forces were unable to stop them and they made it all the way here to rob my apartment!
I agree with you man, civilians totally need semiautomatic rifles! They have a valid purpose in self defense for civilians!
Your gun nut "logic" strikes again and I have to agree with you!
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So did the courts ever make an opinion on semi-automatic rifles? I thought they decided to let the states handle that.
Oh the Supreme Court totally agrees with you CaliRestoration! They don't think it is legal to put any kind of limitation on firearm ownership either! In fact they think a civilian should be able to walk around with an RPG or even a Stinger! It makes no sense whatsoever that in the 21st century, we have a standing Army now! In fact we're going to get rid of the Army because CaliRestoration can defend us from invasions! He will use his peashooter AR-15 to do so!
I'm loving this gun nut wizardry! Makes total sense! How did I not agree with you in the past? No one could think of any reason to say that your argument is complete nonsense with no relation to logic or reason!
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So a 78 year old man with a walking cane can be just like Jason Bourne and use ninja marine CQB techniques to take down gun men?
Oh yeah nobody can use martial arts. Everybody should go to CaliRestoration for advice about fighting because he is a complete expert on the subject! He heard the words "shall not be infringed" and hearing that meant he is now the authority on all things regarding not only firearms, of which is knowledge is "extensive", but also martial arts!
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