Californians Packing up and leaving.... (San Diego: insurance, homes, school)

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

We left for many reasons, the most pressing was that the subprime, stated income mortgage fiasco that started the crash, turned our pleasant neighborhood of 20+ years into a third-world ghetto. All the oldtimers took the money & ran. Just about every house was trashed & in foreclosure & the area never did return to what it once was. Then we factored in that just about everyone we knew was no longer there..they had also moved from CA, or died. Also, San Diego itself had gotten too crowded, too expensive, & the weather changed. The effects of the drought were very noticeable, long before the current drought was declared.

We moved to a place where we knew no one & it has been very difficult but I know I could never go back...& I'm a native Southern Californian who thought I would never leave.

Now if I could only convince my kid & their spouse to leave the Bay Area. They moved there for grad school & are high earners, but due to INSANE Bay Area costs, they still can't buy even a craphole of a house. They need to get out while they can & take their talents to a place that deserves them.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

The problem with California is that it's becoming increasingly less diverse. Aerospace lost 190,000 jobs since the mid-90s. Agriculture is dying because of the drought, and manufacturing has died due to the regulatory cost.

This is true.

In the past immigrants like the Irish, Polish, etc would be in a small community but within a generation or two the majority of kids were integrated. While some are, and even marrying others of a different ethnicity, the ethnic communities are becoming larger and less diverse and the majority do not appear to be integrating at all. I did note that the Asians did integrate a bit more, but the Middle Eastern are divided between the well off, and the less affluent and the less affluent are far less integrated, even after several generations. The idea of a more diverse population is fine, but it isn't working very well. The difference between what some want and reality.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Yermum

As far as California Democrats go, Brown is great and has historically been somewhat fiscally conservative. The cons complain about him all day long on this forum. They don't even know how bad it could really get.

But Governor Brown was much more of a fiscal conservative than Governor Reagan, even if he made arguments for austerity that the Republican would never use.

Five Faces of Jerry Brown | The American Conservative

I'm not a right wing conservative, more of a centrist libertarian, but I don't have many bad things to say about Brown's second run at governor (his first I have plenty of "bad" to say). He hung his hat on the wrong horses in terms of bringing new industries to California, but at least he didn't tax and spend the state deeper into a death spiral like many expected him to do.

He handled the hand he got in 2008 and the state didn't become Detroit. That being said, we could have 20 Jerry Browns or Reagan's for that matter, the governor seat means very little in the grand scheme of California politics. When the Senate and Assembly are as *******ed as they've been for the past 20 years, there's no coming back.

[caligirlz]

Good luck cali when all the gun owners leave, thanks to the multiple gun control bills passed today.

[eqttrdr]

Originally Posted by caligirlz

Good luck cali when all the gun owners leave, thanks to the multiple gun control bills passed today.

Don't know why all the fuss about gun violence these past couple years..

From the *******s themselves Clinton News Network

Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years



Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by bentstrider

Older generations any way. Nothing like rolling through random parts of TX and NM and running into persons in their 40s-60s that claim some random suburb of LA or SF from 20-30 years ago.

Meanwhile, the pretty and bright people from the areas they're moving to still seem to have the coastlines in their sights.

To be fair: what DOES wreck any place is when nurses, cops, firefighters and teachers are priced OUT; especially when illegal aliens are allowed to stay. Toss their despicable illegal kind out and many "bad" areas would be worth living in again by Americans and legal aliens.

[Yermum]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

I'm not a right wing conservative, more of a centrist libertarian, but I don't have many bad things to say about Brown's second run at governor (his first I have plenty of "bad" to say). He hung his hat on the wrong horses in terms of bringing new industries to California, but at least he didn't tax and spend the state deeper into a death spiral like many expected him to do.

He handled the hand he got in 2008 and the state didn't become Detroit. That being said, we could have 20 Jerry Browns or Reagan's for that matter, the governor seat means very little in the grand scheme of California politics. When the Senate and Assembly are as *******ed as they've been for the past 20 years, there's no coming back.

Yes but imagine if there was a far left governor in addition to the assembly.

[BodegaHead]

https://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Be.../dp/1893554732

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by eqttrdr

Don't know why all the fuss about gun violence these past couple years..
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/

That article is three years old.

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2016: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation | Mother Jones

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by expatCA

This is true.

In the past immigrants like the Irish, Polish, etc would be in a small community but within a generation or two the majority of kids were integrated. While some are, and even marrying others of a different ethnicity, the ethnic communities are becoming larger and less diverse and the majority do not appear to be integrating at all. I did note that the Asians did integrate a bit more, but the Middle Eastern are divided between the well off, and the less affluent and the less affluent are far less integrated, even after several generations. The idea of a more diverse population is fine, but it isn't working very well. The difference between what some want and reality.

When the poster wrote "the problem is California is becoming less diverse", s/he meant less economically / business diverse - not ethnically.

That said, California is not becoming less economically diverse. It has the most diverse economic base in the nation. Yes, you can look that up.