Stealing a gun is a felony again (attorney, buy)

[V8 Vega]

Prop. 47 made it a misdomener but 100 year old Brown signed today to make it a felony again. So be careful if your stealing guns.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

Prop. 47 made it a misdomener but 100 year old Brown signed today to make it a felony again. So be careful if your stealing guns.

I don't think that's correct:

Bills Brown vetoed:

▪ Assembly Bill 1176, by Cooper, which would have put an initiative on the ballot to clarify that stealing a firearm is felony grand theft.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/docs/AB_1176_Veto_Message.pdf

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Today he made about 1 million people a criminal if they don't know laws like an attorney by Jan 1st of next year. Way to go moonbeam.

Learn to play the game or morons like the Gov will bury you. These new "laws" will do nothing to make anyone safer.

Anyone care to challenge that? Besides the maybe, could, might, possibly crystal ball crowd?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

These new "laws" will do nothing to make anyone safer.

Anyone care to challenge that?

If making them illegal ever stopped an acquisition intended to lead to violence - you / we wouldn't know, would you / we? So, impossible to say logically, truthfully.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Learn to play the game or morons like the Gov will bury you. These new "laws" will do nothing to make anyone safer.

Limiting magazine size will help. Taxing ammunition a lot more will help.

There are lots of things that would help.

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Today he made about 1 million people a criminal if they don't know laws like an attorney by Jan 1st of next year. Way to go moonbeam.

Learn to play the game or morons like the Gov will bury you. These new "laws" will do nothing to make anyone safer.

Anyone care to challenge that? Besides the maybe, could, might, possibly crystal ball crowd?

I'm a hunter and competitive shooter, but the reality is, no law stops anybody from doing anything.

All laws do is punish someone after the fact.

I wish my fellow nra members would stop saying "The law will not stop criminals"

[neutrino78x]

ysr_racer is right. The laws are designed to make it more difficult for criminals to do what they want to do. You don't say "well this won't stop the activity 100%, so we won't do it."

Plus if no one has a given type of weapon legally, then it would be very difficult for a criminal to acquire it, would it not? How many criminal acts were committed in the USA using fully automatic rifles manufactured after 1986? Probably not many, since such a weapon cannot be sold in a store and therefore the black market does not have a source.

Also keep in mind most mass shooters acquired their weapons legally.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

ysr_racer is right. The laws are designed to make it more difficult for criminals to do what they want to do. You don't say "well this won't stop the activity 100%, so we won't do it."

Plus if no one has a given type of weapon legally, then it would be very difficult for a criminal to acquire it, would it not? How many criminal acts were committed in the USA using fully automatic rifles manufactured after 1986? Probably not many, since such a weapon cannot be sold in a store and therefore the black market does not have a source.

Also keep in mind most mass shooters acquired their weapons legally.

Getting an AR or ammo. Which one do you want to discuss first. Either one I can legally buy at a gun store if I'm a felon. All he did was tell criminals to use plan B.

So no, it's not difficult at all. Maybe on the scale of not as easy but difficult, no. Sorry, my logic meter says fail on all that he signed this week.

[atlaw]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

Limiting magazine size will help. Taxing ammunition a lot more will help.

There are lots of things that would help.

when does this apply to criminals? none of this will help at all

[WizardOfRadical]

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