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Old 07-24-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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Don't take my word for it, see it for yourself. Yes the coast has money. But the rest of the state is on par with Mississippi. I'm speaking about census tracts with 50%+ of the people at or below the poverty line.

In fact the central part of the state actually looks poorer than MS, if that's even possible.

Wow!


[url=http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/01/05/poverty-map/]Mapping Poverty in America - The New York Times[/url]
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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A link that works.

Mapping Poverty in America - The New York Times
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Don't take my word for it, see it for yourself. Yes the coast has money. But the rest of the state is on par with Mississippi. I'm speaking about census tracts with 50%+ of the people at or below the poverty line.

In fact the central part of the state actually looks poorer than MS, if that's even possible.

Wow!


Mapping Poverty in America - The New York Times
Little late to the party on that. It has been discussed here before regarding issues in areas the Central Valley particularly, compared to the coastal strip of CA....poorer then a state like MS is a bit of a stretch though.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:01 AM
 
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Little late to the party on that. It has been discussed here before regarding issues in areas the Central Valley particularly, compared to the coastal strip of CA....poorer then a state like MS is a bit of a stretch though.
Fact: California has by far the highest poverty rate in the entire country. At the present time the poverty rate adjusted for the cost of living, which gives the true picture of poverty in the nation is near 24%, and twice the Mississippi poverty rate when adjusted for cost of living.

This article will give you a true picture of the poverty rate for California and the next close ones.

California: "Land of Poverty" | Newgeography.com

And California is no where near one of the best states in the nation income wise, when average salary is adjusted for cost of living.

Salary by State: Where Can You Really Earn the Most?

And note you can adjust the chart for a certain job type. Example a cashier job. California average pay is 6th highest in nation. But adjusting for the cost of living, and the real purchasing value drops to 43rd place. Mississippi on the other hand, pays 4th highest in the nation. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Technicians California is 15th highest paying but when adjusted for cost of living it is down to 41st place. Mississippi comes in at 20th place, which is far above California.

This is what is so hard for so many people in California to understand, California is a lot poorer than a lot of people even dream in a nightmare that it is possible. It is in essence the the poorest state in the union for percentage of residents living in poverty. Incomes sound high, but when the incomes are adjusted for cost of living, the incomes are not so hot.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:15 AM
 
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How about we use some logic? Califonia as with all the border states have tons of illegals coming in. They are poor and don't have any work skills. Wouldn't you be able to assume that these areas with lots of illegals will have high poverty rates, IN GENERAL?
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:15 AM
 
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Salary by State: Where Can You Really Earn the Most?

And note you can adjust the chart for a certain job type. Example a cashier job. California average pay is 6th highest in nation. But adjusting for the cost of living, and the real purchasing value drops to 43rd place. Mississippi on the other hand, pays 4th highest in the nation. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Technicians California is 15th highest paying but when adjusted for cost of living it is down to 41st place. Mississippi comes in at 20th place, which is far above California.


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What are you talking about? Mississippi is close to the bottom of BOTH lists, even on the one adjusting for Cost of Living. Yeah, I’m sure you can pick and choose a certain job that pays more in Mississippi than CA. That’s not a good way to make your point.
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Don't take my word for it, see it for yourself. Yes the coast has money. But the rest of the state is on par with Mississippi. I'm speaking about census tracts with 50%+ of the people at or below the poverty line.

In fact the central part of the state actually looks poorer than MS, if that's even possible.

Wow!


Mapping Poverty in America - The New York Times
No. It doesn’t. Mississippi is still incredibly poor. Also, few people living in the center of the state of CA because that’s the desert. So it SHOULD be poor because no one sets up there. The vast majority of the CA population don’t live near in the center of CA.
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:31 AM
 
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Don't take my word for it, see it for yourself. Yes the coast has money. But the rest of the state is on par with Mississippi. I'm speaking about census tracts with 50%+ of the people at or below the poverty line.

In fact the central part of the state actually looks poorer than MS, if that's even possible.

Wow!
You are confusing "area" with "population". There aren't many people living in the 'poverty' areas in CA, which are large *in area* because those places suck. Most people are living in the metro areas, which (unsurprisingly) don't have a high % of people near the poverty level.

Look at AZ : WOW! All those areas that are sooooooooo dark! Yeah, because it the f'ing DESERT and nobody WANTS to live there, so those that have to are real poor.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:31 AM
 
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The coast is OK, the other areas are not so good. CA is not all about the Coast. Is it Mississippi, nope, but then who would expect it to be. Who on the other hand would expect it to have such a high poverty rate? It looks like it is the "Golden State" for some, but is the "Fools Gold State" for far too many. Quick polish it up and make it look good, for a while.

Salary adjusted for COL is important. CA has a problem that one would not expect.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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Since so many of the people chiming in are not familiar with the state, the parts that are poor in the central state are not at all desert. Fresno for example, is taking one hell of an economic hit.
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