CA Legislators look to build 'firewall' against Trump, fund lawyers for immigrants costing tens of millions (Los Angeles: house, go bankrupt)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

San Francisco gets about 10% of its budget from federal funds, Los Angeles 2%. Losing that would hurt, but don't exaggerate either.

If California goes into recession, the rest of the country will likely follow. Especially since other economic powers like NYC, Chicago, and DC are also standing up to Trump. Trump is a world class imbecile, but even he's not dumb enough to nuke the economy to prove a point. I think.

Based on what? Liberal media ?

What makes him an imbecile?

Pretty much the entire media called him an imbecile and stupid for saying he was going to win and he won.

[steel7]

If this happens I bet more illegals will come to the golden state. All illegals & their anchor babies should be dealt with.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by steel7

If this happens I bet more illegals will come to the golden state. All illegals & their anchor babies should be dealt with.

The liberal politicians are saying that illegals are good for the economy and don't raise crime so i'm sure they would say that's a great thing.
This is how great nations and states fall.
We are seeing it in action here.
Liberals have already brought the state of CA down, but they seem to want to just finish it off.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Based on what? Liberal media ?

What makes him an imbecile?

Pretty much the entire media called him an imbecile and stupid for saying he was going to win and he won.

Based on everything that comes out of his mouth. Anyone who spouts as many falsehoods as Trump is either a pathological liar or an ignorant fool. I used to think he was the former, but now I believe he is the latter - - an addle-brained conspiracy nut who gets his information from Fox News, Rush, Alex Jones, and Breitbart. A simpleton, basically.

Originally Posted by steel7

If this happens I bet more illegals will come to the golden state. All illegals & their anchor babies should be dealt with.

AKA: American citizens.

How would you "deal with them"?

[jm1982]

But the 'ignorant fool' won the election.
I actually think Hillary proved to be more ignorant. She didn't really speak to issues that really concerned the most Americans.
She made it seem like there was no issues with illegal immigration. The economy was great. Didn't get that people were upset with Obamacare..the list goes on. She was the one that was actually out of touch.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by jm1982

But the 'ignorant fool' won the election.
I actually think Hillary proved to be more ignorant. She didn't really speak to issues that really concerned the most Americans.
She made it seem like there was no issues with illegal immigration. The economy was great. Didn't get that people were upset with Obamacare..the list goes on. She was the one that was actually out of touch.

Clinton wasn't ignorant, she was naive.

Naive enough to think that Americans in the Rust Belt were smart enough to see Trump for the mediocre con man that he is. Unfortunately, they were not, and now we have this utter buffoon as president. A buffoon who just gave Vince McMahon's wife Linda a spot in his cabinet. Forget the fact that her Senate dreams ended in failure and she has no qualifications for the job, we now have the WWE in the west wing. What, did Stone Cold Steve Austin say no?

It's going to be an embarrassing 4 years.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Clinton wasn't ignorant, she was naive.

Naive enough to think that Americans in the Rust Belt were smart enough to see Trump for the mediocre con man that he is. Unfortunately, they were not, and now we have this utter buffoon as president. A buffoon who just gave Vince McMahon's wife Linda a spot in his cabinet. Forget the fact that her Senate dreams ended in failure and she has no qualifications for the job, we now have the WWE in the west wing. What, did Stone Cold Steve Austin say no?

It's going to be an embarrassing 4 years.

Kinda like Obama, twice!

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

It is amazing how much the democrat party has changed in 20 years

Here is an excerpt from Bill Clinton's state of the Union address in 95
All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.

This is impractical, and AFAIK it was never implemented. Too many employers depend on alien labor, and the existing mechanism for importing labor legally doesn't work well. That process would need to be improved in order for all the hotels, landscaping businesses, and cheap garment factories (yes, they still exist; it's not all imported from Vietnam, Palau or Bangladesh) to get the workers they need. There are more jobs to be filled than there are unemployed Americans; think about all the hotel chains, just for starters, not to mention agriculture. My recollection is that in the 90's, the INS adopted a don't-ask-don't-tell re: employment of illegal workers, rather than instituting a crackdown. If the INS deported all illegal workers, much of the hospitality industry (not to mention: agriculture) would shut down.

The US could probably create jobs for its own citizens by expanding and improving the bureaucracy by which workers receive legal permits to work in the US.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Clinton wasn't ignorant, she was naive.

Naive enough to think that Americans in the Rust Belt were smart enough to see Trump for the mediocre con man that he is. Unfortunately, they were not, and now we have this utter buffoon as president.

Not yet, we don't. He hasn't been confirmed by the Electoral College yet. Hang onto your seat for another couple of weeks, and we'll see what happens.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by jm1982

But the 'ignorant fool' won the election.
I actually think Hillary proved to be more ignorant. She didn't really speak to issues that really concerned the most Americans.
She made it seem like there was no issues with illegal immigration. The economy was great. Didn't get that people were upset with Obamacare..the list goes on. She was the one that was actually out of touch.

She did once the Bern and Elizabeth Warren prodded her into it. She talked about changing the tax code so office support wouldn't end up paying more income tax than she and the President did, and she talked about making college more affordable, among other things. She did finally start talking about jobs, but it was too little too late.


But she spent too much time bashing Trump instead of outlining her plans. Apparently in her local appearances she did get into details of what she would do and how she would do it, but none of that got broadcast on national news.