'I'm done': Fed up with California, some conservatives look to Texas (Los Angeles: crime, how much)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by JB316

I don't see why people think owning a house in California is impossible. Yes, if you want to live in San Francisco or San Diego, yea, you are going to pay a premium price because everyone wants to live there. It's similar to NYC or any other highly desirable area.

There are plenty of affordable places in California.

Sacramento/Redding
Bakersfield/Fresno
Temecula/Murrieta
Santa Maria/Lompoc

To name a few...work hard and make some money and then move to the coast when you can afford it. Perhaps you'll simply enjoy living in those areas instead of ultimately moving anyway. They are still some great areas with lots to do; and still preferable to Texas.

One issue is many of those areas don't have as much diversity of jobs/industries as the larger cities .

In Texas one can live in a city with a booming and diverse local economy but the housing is still affordable .

It'd say Sacramento would be the best bet of the cities above though in terms of economy especially for government jobs .

[JustMike77]

Originally Posted by eureka1

Wouldn't it be great if ALL conservatives moved to Texas??

I'm pretty much in favor of ANYONE who wants to leave California. Personally, I have just as hard a time with hard line conservatives that I do with hard line liberals. If the conservatives would simply move to Texas and the liberals would move to Portland or Seattle, L.A. would be a much nicer place to live.

[nightlysparrow]

Originally Posted by majoun

The Texas model of taxation works. The California model does not.

Maybe if you're young. But forever escalating property taxes? Prices retirees out.

[simbared]

I grew up in Texas, and have visited relatives there regularly. Anyone who wants to move there is welcome to it. I'll keep my little piece of California near the beach, and I am definitely no Lefty.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

Maybe if you're young. But forever escalating property taxes? Prices retirees out.

Is there a massive flight out of Texas by the elderly?

[nightlysparrow]

Originally Posted by majoun

Is there a massive flight out of Texas by the elderly?

Nah, they die younger there before they can move:

California #4 life expectancy

Texas #30 life expectancy



Texas Life Expectancy

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by JustMike77

I'm pretty much in favor of ANYONE who wants to leave California. Personally, I have just as hard a time with hard line conservatives that I do with hard line liberals. If the conservatives would simply move to Texas and the liberals would move to Portland or Seattle, L.A. would be a much nicer place to live.

This

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

Nah, they die younger there before they can move:

California #4 life expectancy

Texas #30 life expectancy



Texas Life Expectancy

78.5 VS 80.77 OK, in CA you have to live longer to keep paying the taxes.

The key stay in CA until you are 81 and then move to TX.

[nightlysparrow]

Originally Posted by expatCA

The key stay in CA until you are 81 and then move to TX.

And then pay the sky-high property taxes in TX? Yeah, that makes sense

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by JB316

I don't see why people think owning a house in California is impossible. Yes, if you want to live in San Francisco or San Diego, yea, you are going to pay a premium price because everyone wants to live there. It's similar to NYC or any other highly desirable area.

There are plenty of affordable places in California.

Sacramento/Redding
Bakersfield/Fresno
Temecula/Murrieta
Santa Maria/Lompoc

To name a few...work hard and make some money and then move to the coast when you can afford it. Perhaps you'll simply enjoy living in those areas instead of ultimately moving anyway. They are still some great areas with lots to do; and still preferable to Texas.

If you're going to live in those places, you may as well live in Texas. You can have a bigger home, friendlier neighbors who aren't all up in your business, in some places there's no zoning so you get all kinds of people and it works out well in my experience, plus you don't have all of the extra ridiculous, useless taxes being taken from you that don't go to a thing that you support. Your food is cheaper, your gas is cheaper, your electric is cheaper....it's a lot cheaper to live in TX. So if you're going to live in the dirt anyway, live in rural TX. Houston is actually a pretty decent place to live. I was surprised. Dallas/Ft. Worth, Plano area...strip malls, golf courses, artificial lakes...but there is that one farm like area where you can see those cattle with the gigantic horns right from the road....even just that makes it more interesting than CA.