Covered California Rate Increase 12.5% for 2018 (legally, millionaire, charge)

[k81689]

Originally Posted by skeddy

why won't Jerry Brown start a single payer system?

Capitol Journal California state senators passed a single-payer healthcare bill, but it's going nowhere fast


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...605-story.html

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by k81689

Capitol Journal California state senators passed a single-payer healthcare bill, but it's going nowhere fast

You mean it WENT nowhere.

How a bill becomes a law: Lifecycle of a Bill - Friends Committee on Legislation of California

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by Ceece

I have the choice now of Kaiser or a PPO that is so narrow I can't even access the Dr's or Hospital located a few blocks away, where all my providers are and have been for over 25 years.

Did you try asking your current providers & the Hospital a few blocks away what insurance plans they accept? Maybe approach it that way.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by skeddy

why won't Jerry Brown start a single payer system?

Single Payer doesn't address the underlying problem that health care costs too damn much.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

Did you try asking your current providers & the Hospital a few blocks away what insurance plans they accept? Maybe approach it that way.

There are 2 plans sold in my county, that's just the way CA structured things on top of the Federal plan and how the physicians groups and Hospitals choose to contract with them. There is no amount of money I can pay to get a plan that works for me. So I'll have to pay for one that doesn't so other people can be covered for free. Until it all blows up, and it will.

[CA4Now]

If anything is predictable about the vandalism of the Affordable Care Act perpetrated by President Trump and his healthcare henchmen, it's that the costs of their handiwork will be felt by ordinary Americans for years to come.

Now, thanks to Covered California, the state's ACA insurance exchange, we have the first estimate of what those costs will be for 2019. The bottom line is premium increases in the range of 16% to 30%.

The first projections for Trumpcare 2019 are in: Expect rate increases of up to 30%

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

If anything is predictable about the vandalism of the Affordable Care Act perpetrated by President Trump and his healthcare henchmen, it's that the costs of their handiwork will be felt by ordinary Americans for years to come.

Now, thanks to Covered California, the state's ACA insurance exchange, we have the first estimate of what those costs will be for 2019. The bottom line is premium increases in the range of 16% to 30%.

The first projections for Trumpcare 2019 are in: Expect rate increases of up to 30%

Hmm. It's almost as if giving young people a market choice to NOT buy into a crappy insurance system where they are basically paying to subsidize old and unhealthy people lets them choose better alternatives for their life stage.

Fancy how that works. It's almost like an "invisible hand" of the market, or something similar that may have been described by a very smart man, long ago.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

It's almost as if giving young people a market choice to NOT buy into a crappy insurance system where they are basically paying to subsidize old and unhealthy people lets them choose better alternatives for their life stage.

What's their alternative? Let people who carry insurance subsidize them? Let us pay for their accidents, unforeseen medical issues, or mental health problems? Yeah, that's been working really well.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

What's their alternative? Let people who carry insurance subsidize them? Let us pay for their accidents, unforeseen medical issues, or mental health problems? Yeah, that's been working really well.

Uh, get a job?

Most insurance carriers allow children to stay on parental plans until 26.

I was out of the house by 17, and by 26 I had served 2 years in the Army, and gotten a degree, and had been working for a year.

Here are the facts, ACA, without the individual mandate has ZERO market. If it did, then people would pay for it, but they're not paying for something they don't want, that's why rates are going up. It's basic market economics.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

Here are the facts, ACA, without the individual mandate has ZERO market. If it did, then people would pay for it, but they're not paying for something they don't want

Right. That's why 26,000 more people signed up for CoveredCalifornia this year--as of mid-December--compared to the previous year.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/...or-jan-1-plan/

http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/...a-12344479.php

..."the 2018 enrollment period — the first run by the Trump administration — has nevertheless defied expectations and the predictions of the president, who repeatedly proclaimed the insurance marketplaces dead.

"The administration has done what it can to limit sign-ups," said Sandy Praeger, a Republican who served for 12 years as Kansas insurance commissioner and was president of the National Assn. of Insurance Commissioners.

"But the marketplaces are still around. … I think that demonstrates that people need good health coverage, and these markets have been able to provide it."

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...214-story.html