Looking to relocate to California coast (San Diego, San Jose: house, job market, incomes)

[tikkasf]

Originally Posted by platon20

I'm a pediatrician currently practicing in Dallas Texas.

I went on a visit to Cali (SF thru San Diego) recently and have to admit I would love to move out there and set up a practice.

I probably would not want to live directly in one of the largest cities, but probably one of the suburbs or smaller cities, especially the cities that are right on the coast. IMO the interior of California is too much like Texas in terms of temperatures.

Northern California seemed to have better weather IMO. When I was in San Diego I noticed that it got somewhat hot as soon as you moved a few miles away from the shoreline, whereas in the SF area it was always cool no matter your location within the city.

Another thing I noticed is that the Southern California beaches seemed to be in much better shape with better upkeep. A lot of the public northern cal beaches seemed to be not kept up well IMO

What are people's thoughts on smaller coastal cities like Monterey, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, La Jolla, Oceanside.

One thing that would be important for starting a new clinic is to pick an area with a high number of kids. If it's all older people with grown kids then that won't work for me.

Marin County might be another area that would interest you....

[katie45]

Wishing you the best as your find your new home in California!

BTW: "Cali" is in South America. Santiago de Cali (known as Cali).

[Jame22]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Grumpy "locals" who aren't willing to maintain themselves on the cutting edge are free to move to flyover country where housing prices, services, education, and employment opportunities are all low.

There's no such thing as 'flyover country.' Pure ignorance & arrogance.

BTW, Ohio, Illinois, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Indiana, Kentucky, Colorado and Iowa have better public education systems than California.

Californians seem to be getting more and more closed-minded.

[wac_432]

Originally Posted by Jame22

There's no such thing as 'flyover country.' Pure ignorance & arrogance.

BTW, Ohio, Illinois, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Indiana, Kentucky, Colorado and Iowa have better public education systems than California.

Californians seem to be getting more and more closed-minded.

Oh, is it not PC to say "flyover country" anymore? Sorry for offending your special snowflake sensibilities. Maybe you should call the ACLU and see if you can get that phrase banned.



Arrogance, yes. Ignorance, no. I grew up in flyover country. It know sucks. Why do you think I used that "great public education system" to become a rocket scientist? So I could get a sweet job in SoCal.



Lots of the guys who were in school with me are meth heads now. I guess the better ones got local jobs to make enough to be addicted to oxy or something more legal. The crime rate in my flyover town has spiked to more than double the national average, fueled mostly by drugs, because people who can't physically escape, still need to escape somehow.



My circle of friends were the ones getting high SAT scores and making the Midwestern public education system look good. We did it so we would have enough skills to move out of that hell hole and make it to the coasts. They went to BOS, NYC, Portland, SF etc. I went to SoCal, and love it! If you can hack it, I recommend you join us, rather than continuing to lie to yourself about the wasteland you live in, and getting all huffy when somebody calls it like it is.

[Jame22]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Oh, is it not PC to say "flyover country" anymore? Sorry for offending your special snowflake sensibilities. Maybe you should call the ACLU and see if you can get that phrase banned.



Arrogance, yes. Ignorance, no. I grew up in flyover country. It know sucks. Why do you think I used that "great public education system" to become a rocket scientist? So I could get a sweet job in SoCal.



Lots of the guys who were in school with me are meth heads now. I guess the better ones got local jobs to make enough to be addicted to oxy or something more legal. The crime rate in my flyover town has spiked to more than double the national average, fueled mostly by drugs, because people who can't physically escape, still need to escape somehow.



My circle of friends were the ones getting high SAT scores and making the Midwestern public education system look good. We did it so we would have enough skills to move out of that hell hole and make it to the coasts. They went to BOS, NYC, Portland, SF etc. I went to SoCal, and love it! If you can hack it, I recommend you join us, rather than continuing to lie to yourself about the wasteland you live in, and getting all huffy when somebody calls it like it is.

This is why everyone hates Californians. If you think SOCAL is void of drugs I've got news for you. SOCAL has good neighborhoods and very very bad neighborhoods- Just like everywhere else in the country. You're not special.

Austin is a wasteland?- You're pathetic and delusional. Please feel free to fly over anytime. Trust me, we don't care. In fact, most of us would prefer that you stay far far away. Have fun in your soul-crushing communist hell hole. Oh, and don't get offended when people call it for what it really is

[Goin' Coastal]

Originally Posted by Jame22

There's no such thing as 'flyover country.' Pure ignorance & arrogance.

BTW, Ohio, Illinois, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Indiana, Kentucky, Colorado and Iowa have better public education systems than California.

Californians seem to be getting more and more closed-minded.

C'mon. There are, what, 38 million Californians? And we're deemed to be getting more and more closed-minded because of a few posters on City Data?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by tikkasf

Marin County might be another area that would interest you....

This isn't a bad idea. Check out Marin County sometimes, OP. You'll be enchanted! Look at Mill Valley, possibly, for a place to live, and San Rafael as a population center for setting up a practice. You could also consider Tiburon. High COL in Marin, but not as high as in SF.

[wac_432]

Originally Posted by Jame22

This is why everyone hates Californians. If you think SOCAL is void of drugs I've got news for you. SOCAL has good neighborhoods and very very bad neighborhoods- Just like everywhere else in the country. You're not special.

Austin is a wasteland?- You're pathetic and delusional. Please feel free to fly over anytime. Trust me, we don't care. In fact, most of us would prefer that you stay far far away. Have fun in your soul-crushing communist hell hole. Oh, and don't get offended when people call it for what it really is

LOL, dude. I'm not the one getting my panties in a wad. What do you care what Californians think of your muggy swamp? You could just stay on the Texas forum and argue about which Golden Corral is the "good one" or whatever you flyovers care about. Yall have some weird infatuation with us.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

OP, you not only need kids, but parents who can afford a private pediatrician. Unless you're in their healthcare plan, anyone who isn't fairly wealthy won't be coming to you.

There are a couple of wealthy areas around Monterey - specifically Carmel by the Sea, and Pacific Grove. Otherwise, you need to be closer to San Francisco and a larger population.

I don't know the areas south of Pacific Grove.

It's funny, I just watched the first season of Big Little Lies, which was supposedly set in Monterey. But, I think it was really supposed to represent Pacific Grove or Carmel. Monterey is actually not that rich.

[cmarlin20]

The problem I see with Santa Barbara it is a college town and retirement town. Most are college kids and retired age. Not many kids to start a practice. I love SB, but it is also a remote small town in many ways.