If CA is such a crap place to live (London: gated, living)

[Mr5150]

Originally Posted by max210

OP, California is an awesome place to live. The problem is the corrupt and over reaching government is continually taking our freedom and money, their short term agenda (stay in power) is having detrimental long term effects.

Overreaching, yea a bit. Corrupt, umm got proof? This ain’t Illinois. Or Arizona, or Texas or New Mexico or....

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

Why are people living here? Why are people paying premium prices for housing in the coastal urban areas? (Not the price case in the area where I live)

I see a lot of people saying California sucks. If that were the case, people would be leaving the state in droves (what is a drove BTWj and talent and money would be going to Texas. Then housing prices would drop. Yet here we are, the sixth largest economy in the world with coastal urban housing prices that are a bargain compared to Paris, London, Berlin, Hong Kong and Singapore. Now why is that? I mean a hot area to live, yet cheaper than other great international spots.

Could it be that CA is actually a great place to live? Sorry haters.

You live in Sierra Nevada. Move to LA for a year and see if you keep tooting Ca horn. Or maybe we can send all the traffic and crime and housing prices there. That would free up a lot of so cal stress

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

It's largely driven by right-wing conservative media (with an assist from Russian propaganda efforts). They despise the fact that California has become a liberal Democratic state _and_ that the California economy is so strong. So they talk California down every chance they get. They want California to fail so they can say, "See? Liberalism never works!"

Don't believe me that the Russians are also pushing the anti-California campaign? A popular website based in a former Soviet bloc country called Zero Hedge published this:

16 Reasons Not To Live In California | Zero Hedge

and here's one pushing Cal-Exit just last week

California's Path To Independence Smoother Than Catalonia's, Secessionists Say | Zero Hedge

Putin wants to sow discord in Europe and the US. Dividing Californians from other Americans is part of that plan. And since it aligns with what some conservatives in the US want, they happily repeat it.

I see you forgot your tinfoil hat again.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by Finper

You live in Sierra Nevada. Move to LA for a year and see if you keep tooting Ca horn. Or maybe we can send all the traffic and crime and housing prices there. That would free up a lot of so cal stress

But, isn't the point - if it's so terrible, why don't you leave?

And if you don't leave, doesn't that mean it's worth staying here?

Which would mean, it's not so terrible?

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

Overreaching, yea a bit. Corrupt, umm got proof? This ain’t Illinois. Or Arizona, or Texas or New Mexico or....

LADWP overcharged customers $67.5 million, audit finds | 89.3 KPCC

California auditor: UC President's office hid $175 million

State Senator: ‘Half My Family’ Eligible For Deportation Under Trump « CBS Los Angeles

Taxpayer money was wrongly used to plan California water tunnel project, federal audit says - LA Times

Feinstein denies husband's ties to rail bidder - The San Diego Union-Tribune

https://www.omarnavarro.com/2017/06/...congress-crew/

And then the laws that we didn't even get to vote on.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by max210

LADWP overcharged customers $67.5 million, audit finds | 89.3 KPCC

California auditor: UC President's office hid $175 million

State Senator: ‘Half My Family’ Eligible For Deportation Under Trump « CBS Los Angeles

Taxpayer money was wrongly used to plan California water tunnel project, federal audit says - LA Times

Feinstein denies husband's ties to rail bidder - The San Diego Union-Tribune

https://www.omarnavarro.com/2017/06/...congress-crew/

And then the laws that we didn't even get to vote on.

How about you use your own words? Anybody can post a link, which supposedly makes some point, where most people reading the site won't read.

So, use your own words and express your own arguments - if you are able.

[BeauCharles]

Found a Sacramento Bee article from a few years ago. From 2003 to 2012 California had a net loss of 1,000,000 people to other states, of which one quarter was to Texas. That's not inconsequential. The only thing keeping the population growing is foreign immigration and high birth rates among certain groups.

Roughly 5 million people left California in the last decade. See where they went | The Sacramento Bee

[Californiaguy2007]

Simply because some people love living in California and some just hate it no matter what...I have friends that moved to North Dakota and love it there,while I would never live there.

I used to live up in Washington State and hated it up there,but their were those that loved it....I'm much happier here in California

I also wanted to add...California just like any other state has it's positives and negatives,but in my opinion the positives for me outweigh the negatives on living here

[Finper]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

But, isn't the point - if it's so terrible, why don't you leave?

And if you don't leave, doesn't that mean it's worth staying here?

Which would mean, it's not so terrible?

I think you mean generally but I'm writing this from a hotel room in Tucson Az. I love it here and getting my exit plan together. There'll be one less Ca native soon

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by GSR13

Could it be that moving is an expensive pain in the @ss? Sorry homers.

Foreign investors, low interest rates and domestic house flippers are driving home prices and the economy is based on stupid smartphones apps and hollywood degeneracy. Not a good long term prognosis. Add in a corrupt state gov't, a horrendous education system (looking at you OP) and you get a ticking time bomb.

Don't hold back, GSR; tell us what you REALLY think!

lol