The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Glendale, Santa Cruz: singles, teenager, monument)

[jm1982]

$20,000 package ? Where do I sign up ? How about encouraging people to actually move to affordable cities ? ...

Also the homeless number might actually be over 100,000 in L.A

City has really let things get way out of control .

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It could be possible, Flaming said, to prevent that slide into persistent homelessness with intensive help at the beginning.
“Our idea is to intervene early much more intensely than you normally would, maybe a $20,000 package to give them a new foothold in a new job,” he said.

To fill in those gaps, the Economic Roundtable examined data collected by the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority in 2017.
After months of analysis, the group came up with a new statistical approach that yields a very different number: 102,278 — reflecting the number of people who become homeless at one time or another during the year.

Is L.A.'s homeless population closer to 100,000? Nonprofit offers an alternative view of the data

[CA4Now]

^^ It's interesting what you get out of the same article, jm.

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Daniel Flaming, president of the Economic Roundtable,* said the findings can provide a better understanding of why some people escape homelessness quickly after a job loss or an eviction while others become persistently homeless.

“What we see is that a lot of people make it out fairly quickly and don’t need a lot of help,” he said. “Maybe a third are homeless for a year or more.”

Is L.A.'s homeless population closer to 100,000? Nonprofit offers an alternative view of the data

* https://economicrt.org/our-work/

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

^^ It's interesting what you get out of the same article, jm.

Do you think we should be giving out $20,000 packages to people?

[TCROX]

She wants the freebies to be a lot more expensive! 20k is a drop in the bucket !! How about 50k for starters?--- this is a huge income stream for some people even if it only makes the situation lots worse - which it obviously does.
A third are persistently homeless?? One guy- one data set-- one purpose...
Alliance, round table, consortium, services association---- ummmm yeah- we know what they are all about now- the streets are full of their efforts...kids can't use parks etc... no money for prisons? Wonder why they can't have a home?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Do you think we should be giving out $20,000 packages to people?

Depends on the individual. The concept of assessing individual circumstances rather than making blanket condemnations may be foreign to you ... but to people who think things through without ideological biases and blinders, it is a perfectly reasonable consideration under the right circumstances balanced against some alternatives.

[jm1982]

La city council just voted to open another temporary shelter over $3 million .. but it’s only tax payer money so who is counting right ?

https://mynewsla.com/business/2018/0...city-councial/

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Depends on the individual. The concept of assessing individual circumstances rather than making blanket condemnations may be foreign to you ... but to people who think things through without ideological biases and blinders, it is a perfectly reasonable consideration under the right circumstances balanced against some alternatives.

Yes, especially when it’s someone else’s tax dollars, not yours.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Yes, especially when it’s someone else’s tax dollars, not yours.

OC ... in some circumstances, the homeless are going to cost you, me, us all, more than $20,000 as they founder. Homeless individuals need to be professionally assessed as individuals to determine if an award can be a net benefit to society ... or would be a throw away.

A chronic schizophrenic or a psychotic alcholoic would not be a good candidate for such award even though they will cost the community perhaps as much as over a hundred thousand a year in emergency services and damages.

OTH, a sober, battered spouse with 3 kids, who holds a Master’s degree in business and has experience in manufacturing development is likely a pretty reasonable bet to get out of a shelter post haste.

And if you think the latter is a rare example, you don’t know your topic.

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by jm1982

La city council just voted to open another temporary shelter over $3 million .. but it’s only tax payer money so who is counting right ?

https://mynewsla.com/business/2018/0...city-councial/

They need to get this sorted out in time for the Olympics and Garcettis photo op for his potential 2020 run. He can claim he solved the problem (that blew out of proportion under his "leadership"). After that...

[TCROX]

Max- sorted out will mean raking in a bundle of tax money, covering up stories of fires and violence as the vagrants get more violent and start more fires....notice even obvious vagrant crime is now "under investigation" or not being reported at all!!! Seems that only a smattering of what is happening is getting reported honestly - news sources are a business will take money for just about anything these days ... massive increase in crime and blight is not a reportable issue it seems.
AND shipping/forcing everyone east into the deserts and Riverside / San Bernardino counties is gonna be a HUGE part of the scam here.. so many criminals are out and being let out that they are indeed a mob threat and can't be left to muck up anyone's aspirations for higher office.. - BTW...how many public parks in your area are you able to enjoy including using the tax dollar paid for bathroom? or are there vagrants and mentally ill doing the do 24/7 there ?