California Governor's Race (Long Beach, Sacramento: transplants, real estate, 2013)

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by Finper

There's people on death row for 40 years here . That's a lot of appeals. No liberal will ever allow a person to be put to death here. It's just not gonna happen. Those props are worthless too. Nothing is going to change... might as well put them in gen population and let prison justice take it's course

I agree. It’s no big deal to do away with something they never used. The bleeding hearts do everything for the criminals and nothing for the victims.

[bmw335xi]

If Newsome wins, does that mean anyone in the world can skip getting a visa and just buy a one way ticket and become legal California residents w/benefits? I have friends who would like to know.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Mike930

LOL. Oh yeah, tough sentencing laws with the judges and politicians letting criminals out left and right due to “overcrowding”, three strikes changed to allow more criminals out, and my personal favorite, sanctuary state where we protect illegal alien criminals, because we have “very tough sentencing laws”. They really protect us here. Looks like you’re the one that has no idea what he’s talking about.

A sanctuary state has nothing to do with protecting illegal alien criminals. There haven't been any early releases of violent criminals or for those serving indeterminate sentences. Sentencing laws changed for non violent/non-serious crimes in order to comply with the Supreme Court Ruling that capped the number of inmates who could be housed in California prisons. Three strikes was altered only so that the third strike had to be serious or violent, in the past a relatively minor charge such as drug possession could trigger a 25 to life sentence.

Feel free to fact check what I've said and once you do you probably won't be brag about how much you know about the law.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

If Newsome wins, does that mean anyone in the world can skip getting a visa and just buy a one way ticket and become legal California residents w/benefits? I have friends who would like to know.

If they can get by Trump it’s gonna be open borders all are welcome and hey they’ll get free health ins too bonus !!

[V8 Vega]

That 3rd strike for a minor crime ignores that the guy is a lifetime criminal.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

That 3rd strike for a minor crime ignores that the guy is a lifetime criminal.

Prior to the change in the law, a person could be convicted of two counts of residential burglary (two stikes) when they were 18, lead a crime free life and when they are 50 get a conviction for something relatively minor, like making a threat and get 25 to life. The person still does time for the new offense but they don't get a life sentence.

At some point we need to get rational about who we send to prison for long periods of time and who we don't. Three strikes did not reduce the crime rate, it doesn't act as a deterrent to crime and it's crazy expensive to keep senior citizens in prison, it costs 75k a year to keep a person in prison in California but keeping someone over 55 in prison can double or triple the cost

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Prior to the change in the law, a person could be convicted of two counts of residential burglary (two stikes) when they were 18, lead a crime free life and when they are 50 get a conviction for something relatively minor, like making a threat and get 25 to life. The person still does time for the new offense but they don't get a life sentence.

At some point we need to get rational about who we send to prison for long periods of time and who we don't. Three strikes did not reduce the crime rate, it doesn't act as a deterrent to crime and it's crazy expensive to keep senior citizens in prison, it costs 75k a year to keep a person in prison in California but keeping someone over 55 in prison can double or triple the cost

I can see your point now. Why pay to protect the citizens from criminals when we can use that money for Brown’s train to nowhere or for the pensions for precious union members?

That was sarcasm since it probably went over your head. People like you have ruined this state. I can only hope that if Newsom gets in, his socialist policies only affect people like you.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Mike930

I can see your point now. Why pay to protect the citizens from criminals when we can use that money for Brown’s train to nowhere or for the pensions for precious union members?

That was sarcasm since it probably went over your head. People like you have ruined this state. I can only hope that if Newsom gets in, his socialist policies only affect people like you.

People like me? Have a nice day and welcome to ignore

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

People like me? Have a nice day and welcome to ignore

Oh happy days.

[CA4Now]

Interesting article about how Newsom was not always so liberal.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...201651204.html