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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 10 on rent control?
Yes 15 21.13%
No 56 78.87%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I get about 4 calls a day and several pieces of mail on Prop 10

The mail is 50/50 for and against.

The telephone calls all support Prop 10.

Callers are from local churches and community groups...

What is overlooked is housing providers depend on customers... just like any other business...

I vote with my feet... bad service, failing to deliver and I am done... today it is even easier as the Internet provides almost instant feedback...

There is an entire legal and para legal industry flousishing in cities with Rent Control...

My evictions are far and few but they do happen...

The last one filed a notice that delayed the process 6 weeks... I had originally offered to waive all back rent and return her full security deposit if she vacated by the end of the month... she had lost her job and prospects slim of finding a new one... she did have a large family of adult children...

Once filed... her mailbox was full of offers to delay or STOP the eviction for a fee...

IN order to file I had to first get permission from the city as Just Cause applies.

She was a no show in court... after court I go to the house and she said she is willing to accept my offer... I said that was 10 weeks ago and the money I was going to give was all spent on lawyer fees... and it was.

For a time... I never missed a city councel meeting and often spoke... it made no or little difference... the hand writing is on the wall and why I have been slowly transitioning out of residential units... the work is too much for the return.

As my tenants leave... I have been exchanging out or residential and life is so much more enjoyable.

The tenant of a warehouse with NNN lease is never going to call me about a toilet!
Yes I was going to post this too . It’s a huge industry for the attorneys . Without rent control there would be no need for all these attorneys and court cases .
Tenants have caught on and realize there can be a profit to work the system .
I wouldn’t think of owning one of these rental properties in a city with rent control without a top law firm.
Really need to be on your toes .
Small mom and pops of course often can’t afford the top legal teams and dealing with lawsuits .

 
Old 11-02-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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Some of the top firms for owners now charge a retainer simply to ask a question... the retain can be as high as $1200... with the amount applied towards litigation...

On the other hand... tenants have many free sources of legal aid... foundations, bar association and even the Catholic Church is in the mix...

The para legals that prepare motions mostly fly under the radar... for $70 to $150 they prepare an answer guaranteed to throw a wrench in the works... and add to the owners costs.

My now retired laywer friend said I was very shrewed approaching problem tenants with a proposition... waive back rent and agree on security if they just leave... sounds like blackmale but this is the system as it is now.

I've never had a tenant where I could not sit down and talk... I am always straight and always live up to my side of the deal... some realize it is a way out and others only when it is too late and after I have paid legal fees...

My High School teacher owns a 4-plex... he lived 23 years in one unit and rented out the other 3... he recently sold and said it doesn't take a PHD to figure the direction this is going...

I managed single family homes in Hayard... when Hayward rent control started... all the homes were sold to owner occupants over the next two years...

All of the Oakland homes I have sold were rentals for a long time... green lawns, great curb appeal... all owner occupied now...

This is the reality... Rent Control is a Great Way to boost Home Ownership when it comes to 1-4 unit properties.

I currently manage two former duplexes that were converted to single family... the owners plan on selling...
 
Old 11-04-2018, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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Don't forget big apartment buildings can go condominium/co-op too.

Many, many apartment buildings in New York City became condominiums as a way for building owners to exact the landlord business without their valuations being squeezed down by the effects of rent control.

Polls indicate that Prop 10 is going down to defeat so California isn't going full Socialism this year.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 05:30 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Prop 10 will not establish rent controls anywhere.

What a "yes" vote on Prop 10 does is restore local control of key housing decisions. If it passes, it will be up to local voters to decide what kind of regulations of rents they want, if they want any at all. Only then it will be the decision of those voters to adopt rent controls, or not. Period.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Why stop at government controlling rent? Why not car prices? Or food prices? Or wages?

Oh wait, county's have tried socialism/communism AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Why stop at government controlling rent? Why not car prices? Or food prices? Or wages?
What don't you get about VOTERS making the decisions? Rent control already exists in California. You're not going to be able to stop that -- with this proposition or any other.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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What don't you get about VOTERS making the decisions? Rent control already exists in California. You're not going to be able to stop that -- with this proposition or any other.
Then why change.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Then why change.
See post #174.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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See post #174.
I think that’s the ruse. Right now some city already rent control. That’s local board isn’t it. Nothing is going to stop some local board from instituting rent control today. I don’t see the need for this prop to pass.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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I think that’s the ruse. Right now some city already rent control. That’s local board isn’t it. Nothing is going to stop some local board from instituting rent control today. I don’t see the need for this prop to pass.
Read the proposition. The Costa-Hawkins Rental Housing Act, enacted in 1995, restricts cities’ ability to enact or expand rent control. State lawmakers make the decision. That's why this proposition is on the ballot: to overturn Costa-Hawkins and give those decisions to the cities.
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