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Old 02-23-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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This is needed. Especially when you consider the changes to car safety, breaking and handeling over the last 40 years.
Most people are incapable of dealing with any problem at 100MPH. That takes significant training.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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I wonder if the sponsor of this bill would vote against the bullet train - come up with an alternative - LA to SF in five hours by car.
Five hours? That would be only 75mph:. 375 / 75 = 5.
At 100 mph, it would be 375 / 100 = 3.75 hours. I'd be all over that. Of course, getting out of and into each metro would be slower, so figure maybe an average of 90 mph for the whole trip: 375 / 90 = 4.17 hours. As good as a bullet train, and better than having to get to the train station and wait for the train, then get to your end destination. Door-to-door. Yes, please!!
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Old 02-23-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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The limit of 65 or 70 is safer than 100 MPH as most drivers are not competent enough to drive at that speed.


Reasonable balance.
I disagree I say we implement it to see who's right. You'll never know unless you try.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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The HSR is a much better idea. As long as they can do it right. Stay on the median on I-5, with spurs to major cities not on I-5. Average of 200, not maximum. An HSR trainset would carry a lot more people per hour than I-5 ever would.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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I disagree I say we implement it to see who's right. You'll never know unless you try.
If you see it is wrong it will be because the bad drivers will cause accidents that will kill more people at those speeds.



The idea of a high speed section is fine, but very specific testing must be done and passed by anyone allowed to drive it
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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I wonder if the sponsor of this bill would vote against the bullet train - come up with an alternative - LA to SF in five hours by car.

It's not really an alternative, dude.

A high speed train is zero emissions. The average person can't afford an electric supercar that go the same average speed (200 MPH) for several hours. So most cars driving in these lanes would be spewing air pollution.

The high speed train is carrying far, far more people per hour.

Finally, most humans would have difficulty driving safely at 100 MPH. Look at how many problems there are at 70 MPH. In theory, a software controlled car would be safer, but in practice, you still want human judgement to stop in an emergency etc.

It would be difficult to survive a car crash at these speeds.

For high speed ground transportation, you really want trains.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:18 AM
 
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I will be curious will the new lanes be used for full autonomous vehicles. I remember lanes for autonomous vehicles pilot program in San Diego back in the 2000s but had since been converted to regular HOV lanes. I be curious would full self driving automation be developed in certain lanes built for it even if it could not implemented in normal roads. Maybe the Onion fantasy of high speed buses may come true too once we got the hang of fully automated lanes.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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It's a good plan, but it will never happen any time soon. Years ago I drove in Montana when there was no daytime speed limit there. I was driving 100 mph on two lane roads, and I'm still alive to talk about it. Most of the drivers though were driving between 80 and 95 mph.

Until the 1970s Nevada had no speed limit. That was in the days when cars had no airbags or seat belts. If people could legally drive that speed under those conditions, why is it such a crime today?


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Old 02-24-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Many parts of I-5 are already like it. I used to go 100 mph through quite a lot of it from SF to LA.
^^^This. There's a stretch of I-5 after Bakersfield that's pretty much perfectly flat and straight for like 150 miles. You can fly down that part.
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:52 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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^^^This. There's a stretch of I-5 after Bakersfield that's pretty much perfectly flat and straight for like 150 miles. You can fly down that part.
Apparently however we're incapable of driving at these speeds, and we need to be baby sat by slow speed limits.
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