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Interesting comment, Id be curious what it would be like to have a "bus train" that runs in between Grapevine and San Francisco Bay Area and Sacramento on those new lanes? In which multiple buses get coupled together to travel on the lanes and separate bus drivers get to get off and on to return buses coming off the lane from that point. So compatible buses(usually operated by private firms like Greyhound, Megabus, Boltbus, Flixbus, Luxbus etc) would be departing from different locations but will join the lane to get between the Grapevine and destinations north for a fast up to 200kmh or 120 mph electrified ride. So will other electric autonomous vehicles i.e Tesla Semis and normal Teslas and other self driving cars. Perhaps we would see a new generation of Tesloop buses. I be curious whether the lanes would allow such buses to complete the journey from LA to SF to within 4 hours. Or complete the journey from LA to LV in two hours should they build such lanes on that route too. For routes to San Francisco Bay Area buses would get off the lane and decoupled either at Manteca or somewhere along 580 and be met with local drivers to drive them to their final destinations.
As for bus capacity I would be curious whether Tesla Semis would be used too. I know that Sleep bus tried carrying passengers with a semi container once, https://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...g&action=click But we may not need sleeping capsules at such high speeds but we can have those wide reclining seats with entertainment like those in some buses in Asia and Latin America that is very popular despite having to compete with high speed rail in Asian places like Korea and Taiwan. https://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...g&action=click
Having a bus or train lane would be a good idea IF enough people would ride such. If not it is just a wasteful mistake and would not help congestion at all. The basic idea is good, but a good implementation is what is lacking. Start where enough people would use it and then expand.
Having a bus or train lane would be a good idea IF enough people would ride such. If not it is just a wasteful mistake and would not help congestion at all. The basic idea is good, but a good implementation is what is lacking. Start where enough people would use it and then expand.
There are already many bus companies that are pretty successful in attracting customers on their buses these days running north and south on i5-SR99 between the three metropolitan areas. Some operated by various Asian companies others are operated by Greyhound i.e Boltbus, and there are also Megabus, and Flixbus, and a number of others including Tesloop(not exactly a bus though),
I bet many would be thrilled to be able to travel on a Tesla bus that look like the one I shown in the pictures, with wide reclining seats and PTVs, since few people can afford their own Teslas or other similar vehicles of different brands(domestic or foreign). Those lanes can be used to move goods and parcels too at 200kmh or 120 mph as Teslas and other brands has already pioneered large fright semis.
Though I guess eventually they would also need to build these in the cities especially SF and LA for the idea to be truly successful https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/28/1...-boring-tunnel So those cars, semis, and High speed buses won't get stuck in traffic approaching or leaving these destination cities that are often dogged by traffic and where there is no room to build extra high speed lanes.
I still remembered when San Diego built autonomous vehicle test lanes in the same fashion as a HOV lane back in the early 2000s though they disappeared a few years later.
I surely agree though CA should speed up rail access where it is already heavily used. ie between San Diego and Tijuana and Los Angeles.
I would be curious whether an 80 mile per hour speed limit would pass for divided freeways out in the open. Though I guess they would need to first get rid of the super low 55 miles per hour heavy combination vehicle speed limit and allow them to travel up to their governed speed of 67 miles per hour. Maybe set it at 70 or something. Most large vehicles are already governed to 63-68 miles per hour, (Charter buses and large RVs) at 70. I guess the speed limit would mostly be targeting those towing car carriers, horse carriers, or towable motorhomes and fifth wheels in which the pickup truck towing it which often lacks a governor that governs it to an appropriate speed.
I am also curious what makes 65 a magical number. Why can't 65 mile per hour zones be posted 70mph instead?
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There are already many bus companies that are pretty successful in attracting customers on their buses these days running north and south on i5-SR99 between the three metropolitan areas. Some operated by various Asian companies others are operated by Greyhound i.e Boltbus, and there are also Megabus, and Flixbus, and a number of others including Tesloop(not exactly a bus though),
I bet many would be thrilled to be able to travel on a Tesla bus that look like the one I shown in the pictures, with wide reclining seats and PTVs, since few people can afford their own Teslas or other similar vehicles of different brands(domestic or foreign). Those lanes can be used to move goods and parcels too at 200kmh or 120 mph as Teslas and other brands has already pioneered large fright semis.
Though I guess eventually they would also need to build these in the cities especially SF and LA for the idea to be truly successful https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/28/1...-boring-tunnel So those cars, semis, and High speed buses won't get stuck in traffic approaching or leaving these destination cities that are often dogged by traffic and where there is no room to build extra high speed lanes.
I still remembered when San Diego built autonomous vehicle test lanes in the same fashion as a HOV lane back in the early 2000s though they disappeared a few years later.
I surely agree though CA should speed up rail access where it is already heavily used. ie between San Diego and Tijuana and Los Angeles.
I would be curious whether an 80 mile per hour speed limit would pass for divided freeways out in the open. Though I guess they would need to first get rid of the super low 55 miles per hour heavy combination vehicle speed limit and allow them to travel up to their governed speed of 67 miles per hour. Maybe set it at 70 or something. Most large vehicles are already governed to 63-68 miles per hour, (Charter buses and large RVs) at 70. I guess the speed limit would mostly be targeting those towing car carriers, horse carriers, or towable motorhomes and fifth wheels in which the pickup truck towing it which often lacks a governor that governs it to an appropriate speed.
I am also curious what makes 65 a magical number. Why can't 65 mile per hour zones be posted 70mph instead?
In Florida, and Texas Charter Buses, and Semi Trucks travel at speeds of over 80+ MPH.
In Florida, and Texas Charter Buses, and Semi Trucks travel at speeds of over 80+ MPH.
Highly unlikely, since the vast majority of trucks are governed at 60, 65, or 68 mph. So they couldn't drive that fast of they wanted to. I don't think I have ever in my life seen a truck or bus traveling over 80 mph, and I doubt they do it in Florida. The drivers would be risking their jobs driving over 10 mph over the speed limit. We have the same speed limit here on the West Coast that Florida does. I drive 75 or 80 mph on the Interstate, and I easily pass every single truck.
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Lots of people simply do not maintain their cars correctly to sustain 100 mph driving speeds. Very few people have the skills to control a vehicle at 100 mph when something goes wrong. I mean think about it. Most drivers are busy doing everything but driving and now you want to add 20-35 mph faster speeds?
Lol these tards we share the road with barely can drive at 65 mph. Adding speed just makes things that much worse. I can just see some douche driving 100 mph, drinking eating a burger and trying to text.
Yep. It isn't safe for a human to try to drive at speeds approaching that of HSR. They do it in Forumula 1 and NASCAR...BUT...
you don't have to worry about lane changes and exiting the highway
you have a team to change out the tires etc in minutes (not that a private vehicle owner is going to be able to afford all those tires or to rent places to change them out)
most drivers on the highway, 95+ percent, are not as trained or skilled as for example Danica Patrick
in case you hadn't noticed, even with all their training and skill, there are still terrible accidents on NASCAR and Formula 1.
Not to mention the fact that most of us can't afford a car that can go at those kinds of speeds.
Raise your hand if you're stupid enough to think you can drive a car on I-5 at 200 MPH safely for two hours. Keep your hand raised if you own a vehicle capable of that kind of performance. Keep your hand raised if you can afford staging points along the highway to change your tires when they get worn out.
It's a ridiculous notion. Germany has the autobahn but it isn't a replacement for their high speed trains. They don't say "oh we won't build high speed trains because we have the autobahn". Get real.
Highly unlikely, since the vast majority of trucks are governed at 60, 65, or 68 mph. So they couldn't drive that fast of they wanted to. I don't think I have ever in my life seen a truck or bus traveling over 80 mph, and I doubt they do it in Florida. The drivers would be risking their jobs driving over 10 mph over the speed limit. We have the same speed limit here on the West Coast that Florida does. I drive 75 or 80 mph on the Interstate, and I easily pass every single truck.
I live in FL right now and have lived in TX and yes they do run at 80 at times. No governors being used.
Yep. It isn't safe for a human to try to drive at speeds approaching that of HSR. They do it in Forumula 1 and NASCAR...BUT...
you don't have to worry about lane changes and exiting the highway
you have a team to change out the tires etc in minutes (not that a private vehicle owner is going to be able to afford all those tires or to rent places to change them out)
most drivers on the highway, 95+ percent, are not as trained or skilled as for example Danica Patrick
in case you hadn't noticed, even with all their training and skill, there are still terrible accidents on NASCAR and Formula 1.
Not to mention the fact that most of us can't afford a car that can go at those kinds of speeds.
Raise your hand if you're stupid enough to think you can drive a car on I-5 at 200 MPH safely for two hours. Keep your hand raised if you own a vehicle capable of that kind of performance. Keep your hand raised if you can afford staging points along the highway to change your tires when they get worn out.
It's a ridiculous notion. Germany has the autobahn but it isn't a replacement for their high speed trains. They don't say "oh we won't build high speed trains because we have the autobahn". Get real.
Most people are incapable of driving safely at 100MPH. To drive at 200 MPH would be stupid for 99.999% of drivers. Just the wind created by a passing car would throw someone off the road.
Most people are incapable of driving safely at 100MPH. To drive at 200 MPH would be stupid for 99.999% of drivers. Just the wind created by a passing car would throw someone off the road.
Therefore I am guessing if this ever happens in California it would definitely be on one of those self driving guide rail lanes.
I remember they testing such lanes in San Diego back in the early 2000s using lanes that look like HOV lanes. Though the testing came to an end a few years later.
Yeah, look at all the accidents now. Imagine if the number did not change but with 100 MPH (Not to mention the idiots that would drive faster than the limit like they do now) speeds we would have a whole lot more dead.
I think it's important to remember that most people arent suicidal. A 100MPH speed limit does not mean everyone will go that fast. In Texas they increased most rural freeway speed limits to 75. Before the switch, most people drove around 80-85. After the switch, most people still drive 80-85. Now there's just an added relief of not greatly exceeding the speed limit. Texas DPS is more strict on exceeding the limit though, which is okay. Those folks going 95+ were doing that regardless of speed limit changes. What worse than speeders are the left lane hogs, especially when it's a truck that's barely passing. Give me safely spaced out cars going 90 over everyone bunched together going 65-70. The latter is much more dangerous.
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