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Old 08-08-2019, 11:56 PM
 
Location: California
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They couldn't afford it and are bitter?

If they can't afford it obviously noone can.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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Apparently I touched a nerve? Not sorry I did. Deal with it.

You cannot use people for cheap labor and then get mad when they want basic human rights, health care, better wages, representation in government, etc.

At the very minimum, what's happened with the re-Latinization of California has a lot to do with karma.

When Southern California was virtually all-white and heavily-Republican, everyone was fine with brown folks cutting their grass, folding their laundry, cleaning their bathroom, doing their dishes, picking their babies up from day care, etc. -- as long as they didn't say anything or ask for anything beyond low-wage cash.

Did you think the brown folk would just meekly sit on the sidelines forever and not assert themselves for needing basic human rights? Did you not think that brown folk would want to have families of their own and nice homes of their own, too? Did you not think they'd want representatives in government that spoke on their behalf?

This is why so many of you hate California and say the nasty things about it that you do. It's fine. Just be honest about it.

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Old 08-09-2019, 12:36 AM
 
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I post in CA, mostly the IE forum, because I lived in the IE from 1990-2014. My daughter currently lives in LA County so I read that forum and occasionally answer.

I got involved in C-D when I had a mandatory work location in 2014. My job was moved to TX, so I did research there and also visited CA forums. Unlike some, I think about returning to California every day, and so does my wife. After my move, I kept coming back to the forum, mostly to warn others not to move to Texas, but when participate in the CA forum, it is with the intention to return to the place that is my birthplace and also where I spent most of my adult life.

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Especially when they've only got negative opinions to post. If you're so happy where you are now, why not post to those forums? Or is it a case of sour grapes? Why keep slamming a place or others because they remain there, or want to move there? Also tired of the anti liberalism and I am not a liberal (more a left leaning centrist). Just wondered. I post here because we're relocating to the area and want more information before we make the big move. I often post to other forums in states I'd once considered but rarely to my home state.
As a left leaning centrist, you would be able to recognize the difference between liberal bashing and the calling out of stupid moves by the legislature and by city councils, and also between liberal bashing and legitimate questioning or crazy things that California politicians say on a daily basis.

I do post to the Dallas forum, mostly to warn people not to move to Texas. I also post to Illinois and Chicago Suburbs because I still own property there.

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A lot of them are bitter Trumpist Republicans, and lash out at the state.

They liked California when it was majority-Anglo, and they had cheap labor (mostly Latinx people). They just didn't like it when the labor started asking for driver's licenses, health care and better wages. And they didn't like when the labor started voting in people that looked like them to represent them.

A lot of it is pure and simple racism.
What an uncalled for rant, thick with generalization toward people you don't agree with as if you can read minds. Then there is the A-bomb, one thing I don't miss about California. I also didn't use cheap labor. I cut my own lawn and we did our own housekeeping. Yes we did visit restaurants and I don't know what the kitchens looked like, but I do know as a teenager I was paid $1.60 an hour for washing dishes in a restaurant, and now young Californians aren't getting that opportunity.

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Calling a spade, a spade. It's not my fault if you don't accept it.


Sort of like...AOC is proposing nothing short of what was proposed by FDR's administration in the New Deal era, but because she's a Latinx woman, she catches a lot of hatred from Republicans.

What do you call that? If it's not racism, then what is?

As I said, nobody hated California and bashed it to the extent it's happening now, when the state was 80%+ Anglo white.

Now that the state is plurality Latinx and Democratic-leaning, it is bashed incessantly by Anglo Trump supporters.

Just the facts, Sir.
Seriously... I would not use the "spade" term for obvious reasons, but I guess it goes hand in hand with the A-bomb. I don't remember when exactly California was 80% "Anglo white" but I know California bashing was popular in the 1980s, just like Texas bashing has been forever.

To explain in plain terms... AOC says extremely dumb things. She gets the attention because of her age and attractiveness. She may also be a hero to people who believe in those dumb things, and also because of her ethnicity. Bernie Sanders also says extremely dumb things and gets attention because of his age and his general disheveled appearance.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:26 AM
 
Location: NNV
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Apparently I touched a nerve? Not sorry I did. Deal with it.

You cannot use people for cheap labor and then get mad when they want basic human rights, health care, better wages, representation in government, etc.

At the very minimum, what's happened with the re-Latinization of California has a lot to do with karma.

When Southern California was virtually all-white and heavily-Republican, everyone was fine with brown folks cutting their grass, folding their laundry, cleaning their bathroom, doing their dishes, picking their babies up from day care, etc. -- as long as they didn't say anything or ask for anything beyond low-wage cash.

Did you think the brown folk would just meekly sit on the sidelines forever and not assert themselves for needing basic human rights? Did you not think that brown folk would want to have families of their own and nice homes of their own, too? Did you not think they'd want representatives in government that spoke on their behalf?

This is why so many of you hate California and say the nasty things about it that you do. It's fine. Just be honest about it.
So much wrong with this post.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Apparently I touched a nerve? Not sorry I did. Deal with it.

You cannot use people for cheap labor and then get mad when they want basic human rights, health care, better wages, representation in government, etc.

At the very minimum, what's happened with the re-Latinization of California has a lot to do with karma.

When Southern California was virtually all-white and heavily-Republican, everyone was fine with brown folks cutting their grass, folding their laundry, cleaning their bathroom, doing their dishes, picking their babies up from day care, etc. -- as long as they didn't say anything or ask for anything beyond low-wage cash.

Did you think the brown folk would just meekly sit on the sidelines forever and not assert themselves for needing basic human rights? Did you not think that brown folk would want to have families of their own and nice homes of their own, too? Did you not think they'd want representatives in government that spoke on their behalf?

This is why so many of you hate California and say the nasty things about it that you do. It's fine. Just be honest about it.
I don’t know if you are just a troll or actually believe what you post. I don’t know if I should feel sorry for you being so angry and misinformed, or just laugh at you. Btw try using your spade comment with people of color and see how that goes.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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OK now I get it. it is a SIN to want to live with those around you which you have some sense of familiarity with. The Mexicans do it......the Asians do it......the African Americans do it. But if whites do it they are bigots and racists. I see now. Having grown up on the South Side of Chicago with African Americans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and more it was fine until the influences became overwhelmingly just ONE of those groups. Crime had increased as well as a lessening of safety for ones possessions and life. But you'd love to argue that as well no doubt, even though the statistics are without question on my side of the argument.

So sure, at some point at the rate things are going you will either speak Spanish or be a utter outsider. You will see outlying areas where you may be safer from gangs, traffic, homeless and more. But you'd rather argue that there are far too many that aren't getting their due. Welcome to America. It's a mix of haves and have nots. Always has been. But if you want the Democratic Socialist answer everyone will have a little but not much more and no matter what your talents or what you've accomplished in your life it won't get recognized. You'll be part of the machine. No thanks
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A lot of them are bitter Trumpist Republicans, and lash out at the state.

They liked California when it was majority-Anglo, and they had cheap labor (mostly Latinx people). They just didn't like it when the labor started asking for driver's licenses, health care and better wages. And they didn't like when the labor started voting in people that looked like them to represent them.

A lot of it is pure and simple racism.
Just to let you know: I am a Trump supporter but I am not bitter. I was born and raised in So. Ca. have lived all over the state, from San Diego to Eureka, and as far east as Sac. I am anything but a racist, I do not think of the state as ever being majority Anglo: of course it was but that was never a thought to me I had friends from all backgrounds growing as did my kids. I have never preferred hiring illegals to those who live here legally but no, if you are here illegally I do not think you have a right to free heath care and no one should hire illegals knowingly. If you do hire them, they have a right to benefits as well.

Believe if or not, right here in NWA we have a lot of Hispanics. Some are not legal I am sure and if they are not they should not be hired,

I can add this has nothing to do with racism, except in your eyes and we are not all lashing out at the state. We just have feelings about some of what is going on that differ from some of you.

And I will add more thing, none of us, who have left by choice are bitter or hate CA, nor are we jealous. There are parts of CA I would live in again if the situation was right. I also know I would never live in the LA area again. Does that make me a racist?
I happen to find your post pretty racist to tell the truth.

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Old 08-09-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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You progressives have reduced the negative connotation of the word 'racist' to practically zero.
Now it's a term used by someone who wants to try and offend somebody whose opinion they don't share.
All you've done is managed to enable the very small minority of racists (on both sides) to hide in the vast amount of false positives you've created.

You'll see people on the right flinging it right back to you, and the term will reduce in impact even further.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere.
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I live in Nevada and I still post in California's forums now and then because I spent most of my life in California and I sometimes miss it. I still have some family there, and still have friends there. I like to see what is going on in California as well.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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You progressives have reduced the negative connotation of the word 'racist' to practically zero.
Now it's a term used by someone who wants to try and offend somebody whose opinion they don't share.
All you've done is managed to enable the very small minority of racists (on both sides) to hide in the vast amount of false positives you've created.

You'll see people on the right flinging it right back to you, and the term will reduce in impact even further.
“On both sides”? Has a familiar ring to it ... did somebody else in the news says something about people on “both sides” recently ???

Um, anyway ... I’m intrigued. Can you supply any information about “racist progressives”? Isn’t that an oxymoron?
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