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Old 06-03-2009, 07:36 AM
 
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gildossantos, Ditto! I live in North LA and nothing you said was off target. Sad thing is we like it this way and sure as hell don't want the government to step in and start arresting us all. You must know the government here is going broke and we recently defeated various measure to help the situation out. Constant government meddling in our lives making stupid restrictions is basically why we have become unsupportive and disrespectful. You seem happy that in France your Socialist Gestapo “fixed” everything for you… that wouldn’t fly here.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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This is a good thread & what the op said is 100% true.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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This is a perfect summation of driving in California. The speed isn't so much a problem (lot of long desert roads that should have 100mph limits) as the aggression, poor lane change etiquette, and general lack of courtesy to other drivers. In fairness, maybe only one driver in a hundred is behaving this way, but that's enough to cause real problems.
I'm from VA/DC, see a ton of different nationalities (foreign diplomats), out of staters (Maryland, DC, VA non-natives), and ethnicities in general clashing with agressive DC area drivers on poorly designed highways pist off at having to spend an hour in traffic trying to get to work as they attempt to run each other off the road every time they get cut off on the way to work on hellaciously poorly designed DC roads at 6 am, seen all types of bad driving. One week in California and I thought I was either hallucinating or the state had a different set of laws from the rest of the United States and every country I have ever visited in my life. I've never seen so many people just drive themselves into accidents, fender benders, and near fatal collisions in my life. The entire population has decided that drifting into a lane with a speeding car on coming is a hobby and do it so frequently that I would say if you are driving in CA for about 30 minutes you have a 50/50 ratio to see a massive collision. Staying in Vegas, if you see any accident, fender bender or near collision it is with 100% certainty you will see a CA license plate among the wreckage. If you are in Vegas and you see an idiot staring at the strip with his car drifting into the car in the lane next to him it's beyond certain your looking at a native Californ-i-a. I've been a Democrat my entire life, whole family is, after visiting CA I don't want to be included with these people in anything, I'm just not going to vote. I would say these people are the worst drivers in the country without question but they would be pushing the world if Asia were discounted. On the East Coast you see different driving in different states, like in Maryland/Baltimore people are going close to 85mph on the highways and it leads to crazy collisions, NY you see incredibly aggressive lane changes, Jersey you see incredibly dangerous sports bikes along with incredibly dangerous everything, Florida you see incredibly old people driving incredibly slow, but never in my life have I seen such pathetic driving at all speeds on all roads in my life as I have one week in California. If you took a pack of like 20 California drivers and put them in the greater DC area people would literally drive their cars straight into them hoping for a TKO. I guess Californian drivers intentionally make you feel like you are in the paralympics of driving so you can feel like a champion when you drive for 5 minutes and someone in the car next to you looking at you with you staring back at them doesn't drift their car straight into yours like they are longing for a collision or trying to convince you that this is happening and they are telepathically communicating with you by driving into your car what it is to be brain dead. I guess Californians consider this quirky.

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Old 09-17-2012, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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I nominate the above post for the Academy Award in fictional drama.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Driving is some how associated with a political party? whoda thunk?
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Driving is some how associated with a political party? whoda thunk?
I can't help it.

Libs are driving poorly as they are all smoking a joint.

Conservatives are distracted by Rush and not paying any attention to the road.

Welcome to CA.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: 5500 feet
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I always equated it this way-
Northern California drivers default to pothead moves.
Southern, default to coke head moves.
Bay Area is an unholy mix of the two, and therefore has the rager driving 110 and cutting off cars two lanes away from the pick up going 45 and drifting over both lane lines.

My handy tip, don't get behind the pickup driving 45 because no one, no one, will ever let you in long enough to pass the said pickup. Should you get caught, just slow down and realize you have entered the Twilight Zone. And you aren't getting out anytime soon.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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I always equated it this way-
Northern California drivers default to pothead moves.
Southern, default to coke head moves.
Bay Area is an unholy mix of the two, and therefore has the rager driving 110 and cutting off cars two lanes away from the pick up going 45 and drifting over both lane lines.
I tend to agree with you as to northern and southern CA drivers.

But I add a third category, Central Valley drivers, who generally drive ok. The further you get from Fresno, the worse the driver. Fresno, recently topped 500k population and is getting worse now though.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: California
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I mostly drive in my neck of the woods and surrounding cities in The Bay. I've had a couple near misses when someone has, say, decided they want to be 4 lanes over and just point their car perpendicular to the road to do so, no signals and not bothering to check if anyone else is around (YES I AM!!!!). These two instances were asian woman. Not going to paint with a broad brush but those two times were the worst and most dangerous I've encountered on city streets. I'm sure there is plenty of blame to go around though, big cars seem to have it in for those of us driving compact cars, and everyone "drifts", it's like they can't stay in their own lane, and forget two way traffic on narrow streets.

I don't know how it is anwhere else since I've not experienced driving in other states too much, but it probably has to do with the history and car culture CA developed long ago and a general "I don't really know where I'm going so I'm just going to wing it" attitude we get from so many people who move here from elsewhere. We have more than our share of "california dreamers". I'm sure they are told they need to drive agressively, like in LA, but that's not true everywhere.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: 5500 feet
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More likely the problem is cell phones, hands free or not.

Most truly spectacular goo ball moves I see involve a driver with a phone.
But there was that one dude with a bowl of cereal.
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