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Old 09-11-2019, 09:13 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
Most of the growth is birth and foreign migration.
Incorrect, as has been pointed out to you before by others. And California's birth rate is at a historical low.

California had its slowest recorded growth rate in its history last year as the country's most populous state was hit by a slowdown in immigration and a sharp decline of births.
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/may/0...th-rate-calif/

https://www.sacbee.com/news/californ...211330979.html

 
Old 09-11-2019, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Originally Posted by Woody01 View Post
Shoot, I guess we can't be friends then? We have a Realtor and are looking as we speak. It's not so easy to just pick up and leave after 40 years in a state. There are some regrets too, friends and family and such....but yes we are getting the hell out as you say....thanks for your support....
Don't you love the warmth and tolerance of some Californians?
 
Old 09-12-2019, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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Originally Posted by Reziac View Post
It occurs to me to wonder what the CA map of leaving looks like. Are more people leaving from urban, rural, or semi-developed areas? Would be interesting to see by-county numbers.

Well, I couldn't find that offhand, but here's something from the SJMN -- tho would be a lot more interesting as a proportion of population per county.

Top 10 California counties that people are leaving

1. Santa Clara County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada, Texas and Idaho
In state destinations: Alameda, Sacramento, San Joaquin, Santa Cruz and Placer counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

2. San Mateo County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada, Texas and Washington
In state destinations: Alameda, Contra Costa, Santa Clara, Sacramento, and San Francisco counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

3. Los Angeles County
Out of state destinations: Nevada, Arizona, and Idaho
In state destinations: San Bernardino, Riverside, Ventura and Kern counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

4. Napa County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Idaho, Nevada, Florida and Oregon
In state destinations: Solano, Sonoma, Sacramento, Lake and El Dorado counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

5. Monterey County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada, and Idaho
In state destinations: San Luis Obispo, Fresno, Santa Cruz, Sacramento and San Diego counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

6. Alameda County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, and Hawaii.
In state destinations: Contra Costa, San Joaquin, Sacramento, Placer, and El Dorado counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

7. Marin County
Out of state destinations: Nevada, Arizona, Oregon and Idaho.
In state destinations: Sonoma, Contra Costa, Solano and San Francisco counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

8. Orange County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada and Idaho
In state destinations: Riverside, Los Angeles, San Bernardino, San Diego and San Luis Obispo

a.k.a. Trump voters

9. Santa Barbara County
Out of state destinations: Arizona, Nevada and Idaho.
In state destinations: San Luis Obispo, Ventura, Los Angeles, Riverside and Kern counties

a.k.a. Trump voters

10. San Diego County
Out of state destinations: Arizona and Nevada
In state destinations: Riverside, San Bernardino, Imperial, Orange County and Los Angeles
Moderator cut: too harsh, unnecessary

Last edited by Count David; 09-12-2019 at 02:13 PM..
 
Old 09-12-2019, 12:46 AM
 
Location: just NE of Tulsa, OK
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Originally Posted by Leona Valley View Post
Cost of living, politics, taxes, crime, demographics, traffic, homeless, beggars, trash, graffiti, gangs, rude people, illegal aliens. It was time to go. So content now.
So, where'd ya go?
 
Old 09-12-2019, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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Originally Posted by ImmerLernen View Post
So, where'd ya go?
Probably to some rural Idaho or Arizona backwater where all 210 people are white, their dogs and horses are white and everyone is someone's brother-in-law or cousin.

Look at their posting history!

They lived in one of the whitest (and wealthiest) places in L.A. County and they were still so racist that it wasn't good enough for them...


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LEONA VALLEY, 93551 (2018)

79.6% Non-Hispanic White
Median Yearly Income: $117,526

$117,526 median household income (2018 dollars), high for the Antelope Valley and high for the county

In Los Angeles County, Bel-Air, Hidden Hills and Rolling Hills have the most similar household incomes.

Source: Los Angeles Times-MappingLA

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Old 09-12-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Woody01 View Post
Just my anecdotal evidence, but all of the friends we have leaving CA are doing it because of politics. Period. Now they don't mind the beneficial money aspect of the move, but it was not their first thought, not even close.....
Now as for me, it started with the desire to get the heck out of this state, and quickly realized how much money there was on the line. That solidified the decision.
I will be honest, politics prevent me from moving back there! That and the attitude of kttam186290 and many others. In a nutshell, if CA is your Utopia than fantastic. One of the most fascinating things about the United States is how diverse she is with her climate, terrain and optional living. If we want, we can choose to live in a State that doles out money for programs you don't even have to work for, or in some cases be a citizen of or you can choose to live some place where you vote does matter and you work for a living to enjoy the feeling of accomplishment.

Life is short and precious, learn to enjoy and embrace that which makes you happy and stop the bashing of others, it's wasted energy.

Last edited by cleosmom; 09-12-2019 at 09:57 AM..
 
Old 09-12-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cleosmom View Post
Life is short and precious, learn to enjoy and embrace that which makes you happy and stop the bashing of others, it's wasted energy.
So true, thanks for some positive words....
 
Old 09-12-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by aslowdodge View Post
Don't you love the warmth and tolerance of some Californians?
I know, huh? And I even put in the title 'Conservatives'....but ya can't keep the liberals away from a chance to be mean spirited....
 
Old 09-12-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by Woody01 View Post
I know, huh? And I even put in the title 'Conservatives'....but ya can't keep the liberals away from a chance to be mean spirited....
Yeah, they’re not like conservatives who model Trump, Eh? Magnanimous. Fair. Gracious. Thoughtful. Kind. Analytical. Intellectually honest ....
 
Old 09-12-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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Yeah, they’re not like conservatives who model Trump, Eh? Magnanimous. Fair. Gracious. Thoughtful. Kind. Analytical. Intellectually honest ....
Your allusion to conservatives being like Trump is a fallacious statement on its face. If that were true, then the opposite must be true. As a liberal you MUST emulate and condone Clinton's rapes, abuse of power, and perjury. But conservatives don't demand that because most of us are tolerant and we want ALL people to live their best lives.

The irony in your statement is that the LEAST TOLERANT people in America outside of maybe the God Hates F*gs wackos are liberals. Don’t believe that? Try being a conservative who’s invited to speak on a college campus, a black man who likes Donald Trump or a gay American who opposes gay marriage and see how that goes for you when you interact with liberals. Think about the fact that there are college professors, actors and reporters who have to hide their ideologies because it would hurt their careers to have their liberal colleagues know they don’t agree with everything Michael Moore has to say. The most abusive people in America when it comes to women? They’re liberal men talking to conservative women. Incidentally, the second most abusive group are liberal feminists who claim to represent all women. Liberals are habitually nasty, dishonest and vindictive toward people for no other reason than because they’re incapable of tolerating even a politely offered dissenting viewpoint.

Your particular intolerance towards conservatives is just the most recent in a thread full of intolerant, virtue signaling, passive aggressive attacks on conservatives who merely voiced their opinion on why they want to leave California. But you all are SO INTOLERANT of dissent that you can't handle it. You and all the libs who commented here have a superiority complex yet you forget that the roots of slavery and segregation started with YOUR party. You forget that the KKK was a Democrat founded movement. You forget, as you virtue signal on high, that two of those great presidents on Mount Rushmore- the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln, and The Great Conservationist, Theodore Roosevelt- were Republican!

So many of us Republicans seek to incorporate the values that they espoused in ourselves. We wish that you liberals didn't seek to divide, demean, shout down opposing views, and would actually engage in rational discourse. But all you do is name call.

Look in the mirror Libs.
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