Recall Newsom? (San Diego, Sacramento: restriction, rules, democrat)

[Mellowmike]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Up to 1.8M signatures.
Get ready for Newsom's conveniently recent hand-picked S.O.S. to find a way to derail legitimate democratic process.

We have a Democratic process in 2022 at which time we will be electing a governor. The recall effort is nothing more than a power grab by a party loyal to Donald J Trump. Governor Ducey of Arizona also ordered the closure of facilities' due to the pandemic, many of which will never open again. He also shut down schools, just as other states controlled by both Republicans and Democrats. Large cities in Arizona also have a homeless problem just as most cities in states with mild winters. And yet I see no serious effort by any group to recall Gov Ducey for his actions during the pandemic. Other than him being a Republican, why do you think that is the case?

[joosoon]

There's nothing stopping anyone from waiting until 2022 to make their next choice for governor and sitting out any election in between now and then. The recall mechanism has been enshrined in our state constitution for over a hundred years. It is by default a part of the democratic process. Calling it a "power grab" or "coup" or anything else is utter nonsense. If it's so horrible, lobby your state representatives and demand they pass legislation amending the state constitution to strike it wholly from article II.

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Mellowmike

We have a Democratic process in 2022 at which time we will be electing a governor. The recall effort is nothing more than a power grab by a party loyal to Donald J Trump. Governor Ducey of Arizona also ordered the closure of facilities' due to the pandemic, many of which will never open again. He also shut down schools, just as other states controlled by both Republicans and Democrats. Large cities in Arizona also have a homeless problem just as most cities in states with mild winters. And yet I see no serious effort by any group to recall Gov Ducey for his actions during the pandemic. Other than him being a Republican, why do you think that is the case?

Maybe you don't know what's going on in the state or haven't read anything in this thread, covid shutdown isn't the only reason there's a recall going on.

There is no power grab by republicans. Even if a republican was to win, he would be powerless with zero support in this solid blue state. It's an excuse, a fever dream.

[V8 Vega]

The Communist party (Democrats) aren't going to take a chance of losing the governorship. If things don't look good for Newsom they will have a Democrat candidate they think will win. The Federal Democrats will give a lot of money for their campaign.
In this extreme Democrat state I can't imagine anything but a Democrat winning.

[Elliott_CA]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

The Communist party (Democrats) aren't going to take a chance of losing the governorship. If things don't look good for Newsom they will have a Democrat candidate they think will win. The Federal Democrats will give a lot of money for their campaign.
In this extreme Democrat state I can't imagine anything but a Democrat winning.

First time I've ever agreed with one of your posts, V8 Vega

Registered Dems hold nearly a 2-to-1 voter registration advantage over Republicans. Only 24% of voters are registered Repubs, and there's no way you're going to get millions of Democrats to cross party lines to vote for some lightweight former San Diego mayor.

So really it comes down to will voters punish Newsom for the French Laundry gaffe by replacing him with another Democrat. Or, if the vaccine rollout continues to accelerate, the case numbers continue to drop, schools and businesses reopen, it will all be receding in the rear view mirror and Newsom survives the recall.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by BB_210

Maybe you don't know what's going on in the state or haven't read anything in this thread, covid shutdown isn't the only reason there's a recall going on.

There is no power grab by republicans. Even if a republican was to win, he would be powerless with zero support in this solid blue state. It's an excuse, a fever dream.

Of course it's a power grab, and I know about what's going on in the state but I get my news from sources other than Gateway Pundit or Breitbart.

The Republican National Committee is sending $250,000 to help the state GOP force a vote over whether the first-term Democrat should remain in office. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...blicans-468747

"California GOP Donates $125,000 to Recall Gavin Newsom Campaign After Petition Hits Target"
https://www.newsweek.com/california-...effort-1569354

Recalling Gov. Newsom is a desperation move by the shrinking GOP https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...publican-party

https://infogram.com/recall-donors-1hnp27meo5jmy2g

Taxpayers are going to spend $100,000 for this cheesy attempt to put a Republican in the Governors office even though Newsom will be up for election less than a year after the recall, IMO that's just disgusting.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

First time I've ever agreed with one of your posts, V8 Vega

Registered Dems hold nearly a 2-to-1 voter registration advantage over Republicans. Only 24% of voters are registered Repubs, and there's no way you're going to get millions of Democrats to cross party lines to vote for some lightweight former San Diego mayor.

So really it comes down to will voters punish Newsom for the French Laundry gaffe by replacing him with another Democrat. Or, if the vaccine rollout continues to accelerate, the case numbers continue to drop, schools and businesses reopen, it will all be receding in the rear view mirror and Newsom survives the recall.

Democrats still make up less than 50% of voters. It's more about convincing Independents than Democrats.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

"California GOP Donates $125,000 to Recall Gavin Newsom Campaign After Petition Hits Target"
https://www.newsweek.com/california-...effort-1569354

Recalling Gov. Newsom is a desperation move by the shrinking GOP https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...publican-party

That's a comically small amount in the face of what today's political campaigns cost. How much do you think Democrats are spending on trying to derail the recall? how much do you think they'll spend on trying to hold onto the governor's seat?

I'd guess both figures will total in the millions of dollars.

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

First time I've ever agreed with one of your posts, V8 Vega

Registered Dems hold nearly a 2-to-1 voter registration advantage over Republicans. Only 24% of voters are registered Repubs, and there's no way you're going to get millions of Democrats to cross party lines to vote for some lightweight former San Diego mayor.

So really it comes down to will voters punish Newsom for the French Laundry gaffe by replacing him with another Democrat. Or, if the vaccine rollout continues to accelerate, the case numbers continue to drop, schools and businesses reopen, it will all be receding in the rear view mirror and Newsom survives the recall.

Another person not paying attention, this isn't just because of the french laundry issue.

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Of course it's a power grab, and I know about what's going on in the state but I get my news from sources other than Gateway Pundit or Breitbart.

The Republican National Committee is sending $250,000 to help the state GOP force a vote over whether the first-term Democrat should remain in office. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...blicans-468747

"California GOP Donates $125,000 to Recall Gavin Newsom Campaign After Petition Hits Target"
https://www.newsweek.com/california-...effort-1569354

Recalling Gov. Newsom is a desperation move by the shrinking GOP https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...publican-party

https://infogram.com/recall-donors-1hnp27meo5jmy2g

Taxpayers are going to spend $100,000 for this cheesy attempt to put a Republican in the Governors office even though Newsom will be up for election less than a year after the recall, IMO that's just disgusting.

I didn't realize your alternate account is mellowmike.

Taxpayers have lost billions under newsom, and stand to lose more. Where's the uproar there? What's disgusting is defending newsom after everything he's done.

[Elliott_CA]

Originally Posted by sav858

Democrats still make up less than 50% of voters. It's more about convincing Independents than Democrats.

As of October, it's 46% D, 24% R, 24% NPP and 6% other. Biden beat Trump 64-34, so NPP's leaned left roughly 65-35. The Repubs will have to flip lots of left-leaning indies plus get a sizeable chunk of Dems to defect. These numbers show what an uphill climb it will be to recall Newsom. Not impossible, but it will be hard.