There is a new proposition 13 for school bonds (tenants, landlord)

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

I don't like that it's "too close to call". That tells me two things. One, there's a lot of incredibly stupid voters in this state that would vote for it. Though I've already known that for many years. The other is that, with CA being what it is, I have a sneaking suspicion that just enough last minute "absentee votes" will be "found" to make it "pass".

You're wrong. So does that mean you will no longer spout conspiracy theory nonsense?

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

If Prop 13 is declared officially dead, my money (what little I'm still allowed to keep) will be that Emperor Newsom will simply override that and enact it by direct Executive Order anyway, the will of The Voters be damned.

He did it with Rent Control. Why not this? Not like there will be any opposition or pushback, or anyone who can really stop him.

Sounds good. How much would you like to wager and what odds are you willing to give that he passes the executive order by the end of 2020?

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

If Prop 13 is declared officially dead, my money (what little I'm still allowed to keep) will be that Emperor Newsom will simply override that and enact it by direct Executive Order anyway, the will of The Voters be damned.

He did it with Rent Control. Why not this? Not like there will be any opposition or pushback, or anyone who can really stop him.

He could but he might not get re-elected again. I think his auntie Pelosi might go down too.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

If Prop 13 is declared officially dead, my money (what little I'm still allowed to keep) will be that Emperor Newsom will simply override that and enact it by direct Executive Order anyway, the will of The Voters be damned.

He did it with Rent Control. Why not this? Not like there will be any opposition or pushback, or anyone who can really stop him.

I don’t think he can just enact a bond (additional tax) by executive order. I don’t think it’s constitutional. However, when has that stopped them before?

[Des-Lab]

Originally Posted by Mike930

I don’t think he can just enact a bond (additional tax) by executive order. I don’t think it’s constitutional. However, when has that stopped them before?

Well maybe not a "bond" per se, but he still has plenty of tools at his disposal to accomplish the same goal: to get more money. DMV fees, raising the toll roads, surcharges/fees on utilities, whatever. Lots of numerical gymnastics and semantics, but ultimately boils down to the same result: he'll still find a way to get the money. And to him, that's all that will matter. And we'll get hosed yet again. Makes no difference how the money confiscated is worded or allocated. The only part that matters is that: We pay too much. And will probably be paying more for something in the near future.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Oh nooo's, it didn't pass, so I won't be forced to pay even more taxes because of this proposition...pass the tissues...*sniff*

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

Well maybe not a "bond" per se, but he still has plenty of tools at his disposal to accomplish the same goal: to get more money. DMV fees, raising the toll roads, surcharges/fees on utilities, whatever. Lots of numerical gymnastics and semantics, but ultimately boils down to the same result: he'll still find a way to get the money. And to him, that's all that will matter. And we'll get hosed yet again. Makes no difference how the money confiscated is worded or allocated. The only part that matters is that: We pay too much. And will probably be paying more for something in the near future.

Exactly.

He took the gas tax money and redirected it towards fighting "climate change". I could see Newsom taking other funds and redirecting them anyway he feels like, just as he's been doing, without opposition.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by mgforshort

Election results
California Proposition 13: School and College Facilities Bond

Result Votes Percentage
Yes 2,233,528 44.14%
No 2,826,535 55.86%
Precincts reporting: 99%

Pretty scary how close the vote was, though.

[ImmerLernen]

Originally Posted by mgforshort

Folks, do you believe in miracles, or in other words, that there is light at the end of the tunnel ?????

Let us pray! (Or cross fingers or whatever you're into!) We need a miracle in this State.

[eastcoastbias]

Originally Posted by Finper

It said on the news that they are going to try again with another bond in Nov

And We will be ready!!!! Again!!!!