Coronavirus (install, best place, place)

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by joosoon

I can tell you haven't flown in a couple years.

I flew a few weeks ago on Delta. Boarding was delayed a short while in order to cool the plane off first.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by sav858

Yet we ended up with Newsom doing the exact same thing his supporters were freaking out Elder would do; getting rid of nearly every mandate. Ironic no?

It's hard not to notice that fact, right? But Newsom set the ball in motion even before the election when he tried to force schools to open up, another thing his supporters were wringing their hands over with respect to Elder, etc. And his base ignored it.



Is political expediency ironic though?

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

I flew a few weeks ago on Delta. Boarding was delayed a short while in order to cool the plane off first.

As in they were forcing a bunch of air into the plane, right?
Some airlines do it better than others. There's plenty of air flow, even when the planes are sitting idle on a runway.

[goodheathen]

Of course I'm not traveling during a pandemic. No reason for me to. It's generally irresponsible.

Regardless of spread on planes, having infected people introduce the virus (well, at this point a variant) to other regions is no good and all reasonable measures must be taken to detect infections before boarding.

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by sav858

This really isn’t about whether the majority agree or not at all. It’s about the “majority” imposing restrictive/invasive mandates on others when there is little justification to do so. I don’t really get what is with some people and these “look at this poll, the majority don’t agree with you” as if that’s supposed to change their mind. It’s very sheepish/mob mentality.

Which people might those be? Who's quotes are those? I don't recall stating anywhere that I was trying to change your or anyone else's mind either. Just pointing out the reality of the situation and that ranting isn't exactly going to change anything. I also don't find it ironic at all that as numbers get better, mandates get lifted (the exception being Southern Cal right now). It actually seems quite logical to me.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by blameyourself

Which people might those be? Who's quotes are those? I don't recall stating anywhere that I was trying to change your or anyone else's mind either. Just pointing out the reality of the situation and that ranting isn't exactly going to change anything. I also don't find it ironic at all that as numbers get better, mandates get lifted (the exception being Southern Cal right now). It actually seems quite logical to me.

I never said you did but not what is honestly the point of pointing that out? But the majority of Newsom’s supporters still want the mandates yet he lifted them.

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by joosoon

It's hard not to notice that fact, right? But Newsom set the ball in motion even before the election when he tried to force schools to open up, another thing his supporters were wringing their hands over with respect to Elder, etc. And his base ignored it.

Is political expediency ironic though?

Again, not ironic at all. At what point did you think Governors were elected based on a single issue?

Clearly the rest of what Elder stood for wasn't palatable to the majority of voters. And for the record, these claims about what "supporters" want are probably taken from silimar polls that some of the posters here try to discredit. I know plenty of people that support Newsom that don't necessarily agree with some of the Covid protocols and don't have an issue with easing some of the restrictions as numbers got lower.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by blameyourself

Again, not ironic at all. At what point did you think Governors were elected based on a single issue?

Clearly the rest of what Elder stood for wasn't palatable to the majority of voters. And for the record, these claims about what "supporters" want are probably taken from silimar polls that some of the posters here try to discredit. I know plenty of people that support Newsom that don't necessarily agree with some of the Covid protocols and don't have an issue with easing some of the restrictions as numbers got lower.

For a recall election that’s pretty common actually.

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by sav858

For a recall election that’s pretty common actually.

Maybe to get it to a ballot, but if you're a candidate that is only in line with that one issue, your chances are slim to unseat the current Governor. And that's exactly what happened.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by blameyourself

Again, not ironic at all. At what point did you think Governors were elected based on a single issue?

I didn't and it wasn't the point.
The point was Newsom has done all the things his supporters fretted over any of his potential replacements doing. In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter who changed those policies? You could argue the timing would've been different, and that's maybe true (not getting into the weeds of how this would've worked with a hostile state legislature), but ultimately the protocols went away in spite of him keeping his job.