Coronavirus (Los Angeles, San Diego, Santa Ana: appointed, 2015, homes)

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

I read that and wanted to throw a brick through my TV. COME ON. This has been all about CONTROL from day one.

Not defending the decision, but it was based on an algorithm that's been in place since Spring. I'm more surprised they didn't just outright cancel the last week of Summer, although who knows... there may be a Sunday evening email doing just that. Even if it would do anything, it's a bit late to bother. My prediction is it will crash attendance even worse than normal because it will scare off some types and **** off the others.



It's a dumb decision but it portends what might happen come Fall. We aren't done with the on-again, off-again approach just yet. It's really baffling.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Finper

If you all are ordered to mask up again…..are you really going to do it???

No one well enforce it. LE has better things to do than be pawns for these clowns. Every day I go over a bridge to get across the freeway and at least one homeless person is shooting up. Little kids that have to walk home across this bridge get to see this daily. Trash, needles all over.

Covid is so far in the rear view mirror in what we have to deal with as a society and it's problems.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

No one well enforce it. LE has better things to do than be pawns for these clowns. Every day I go over a bridge to get across the freeway and at least one homeless person is shooting up. Little kids that have to walk home across this bridge get to see this daily. Trash, needles all over.

Covid is so far in the rear view mirror in what we have to deal with as a society and it's problems.

That’s what I figured but LA just won’t let Covid go. I just don’t see people putting masks on again to shop but I never understood the mentality of Angelinos. I bet Barbara’s going to try one last time though

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Finper

That’s what I figured but LA just won’t let Covid go. I just don’t see people putting masks on again to shop but I never understood the mentality of Angelinos.

As if residents of L.A. County have anything to do with setting mandates.

[goodheathen]

The potential reaction of course is a factor, perhaps just as much from the business community as residents. With many offices regularly testing workers and anecdotally cashiers increasingly masking, I think LA County believes enough private establishments will block entry to unmasked people. If the county had been requiring most on-site-indoors employees to wear N95 masks, maybe transmission wouldn't be sky-high now.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

No one well enforce it. LE has better things to do than be pawns for these clowns. Every day I go over a bridge to get across the freeway and at least one homeless person is shooting up. Little kids that have to walk home across this bridge get to see this daily. Trash, needles all over.

Covid is so far in the rear view mirror in what we have to deal with as a society and it's problems.

Humm, what is LE actually doing these days?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Racer46

Humm, what is LE actually doing these days?

Handing out tents and needles apparently. This is California.

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Not defending the decision, but it was based on an algorithm that's been in place since Spring. I'm more surprised they didn't just outright cancel the last week of Summer, although who knows... there may be a Sunday evening email doing just that. Even if it would do anything, it's a bit late to bother. My prediction is it will crash attendance even worse than normal because it will scare off some types and **** off the others.



It's a dumb decision but it portends what might happen come Fall. We aren't done with the on-again, off-again approach just yet. It's really baffling.

The problem is there is still a "state of emergency" that Newsom started 2.5 years ago. This "state of emergency" gives public health officers that are appointed and not elected 100% dictatorial powers to enact all sorts of decrees from masking to shutting businesses to closing schools and parks. Whether these are actually legally enforceable is up for debate (many Bay Area businesses hired lawyers and successfully ignored the fines levied on them for noncompliance for example), but public health officers can nonetheless totally alter the functioning of a county with the stroke of a pen.

Putting up some nonsensical metric about "cases" (not useful metrics like ICU capacity, deaths etc) allows the county to enact all sorts of restrictions while appearing "scientific" about it. Based on the last 2 years it's clear cases rise midsummer and in the winter. If they set the bar low enough they can guarantee masking during both these times if they want. The county health officer of Los Angeles (Barbara Ferrer), can simply ignore the fact that Orange and San Diego counties have much lower covid mortalities per capita despite mask mandates not existing for almost an additional year and cite her silly metrics and declare "it's science!" to all the naysayers. She can't be voted out no matter how much the people of Los Angeles hate her and will 100% just deflect blame and say " it's not me it's just these [arbitrary] metrics meant to keep everyone safe!"

[goodheathen]

Los Angeles is not its neighbors in the population makeup, etc.

The problem is not too much power by local public health officers. It's probably too little. What can they do that's widespread and stricter than a mask order? Probably nothing. Obviously they can't shut the border. Because social fun in a face mask is nearly an oxymoron and masks remind people that we're in a dangerous situation, that presumably reduces turnout in indoor social spaces and slows spread that way. It's unlikely for an order to even require the general public to wear N95 masks, due to supply issues.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

As if residents of L.A. County have anything to do with setting mandates.

That’s not what I meant. I meant if any population in the whole US would willingly put masks back on it would be people in LA or San Francisco.

I work at a pharmacy in Idaho. One of my coworkers got Covid and after 3 days they asked him to come in and work and just wear a mask and he did. That’s how over Covid Idaho is.