Coronavirus (Sacramento: day care, hotel, lawyers)

[JGC97]

Good article TR. Dr. Drew is right. It's pretty easy to rile people up these days and the press loves it.

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by oh come on!

yeah, this sounds so silly.

It's like shutting down the economy for the common flu.


I hope everyone has enough savings to dip into during this down period.
Americans don't save jack, so i hope no one goes broke.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Of the 66 confirmed cases in Santa Clara county currently 31 are hospitalized. I've had the flu 5 times and never went to the hospital. There's a 2-3% mortality rate too which is Spanish flu levels.

This is serious. Prepare to have your life disrupted and that frankly is a good thing. Read about the towns during the Spanish flu that just let public events go on as usual vs those that did not...

[wac_432]

Revisit these posts in a month when your local hospital is 400% capacity and RN's are having to choose who is most likely to survive in order to allocate respirators, while walking away from a wailing son or daughter begging them to save their mama or father.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by TR95

Yeah, I remember great deals when SARS was going on. Here’s an interesting take from Dr Drew and this is really what I believe. Maybe CNN has to get Gupta off retainer and have some objective news reporting.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ng_people.html

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

Good article TR. Dr. Drew is right. It's pretty easy to rile people up these days and the press loves it.

Well this is truly a moment of ironic hilarity in the midst of some gloom. Dr. Drew, eh? The same same Dr. Drew who spread hyperbolic fear about the typhus outbreak a year back in LA ... the outbreak that went nowhere ... the outbreak that was simply another - but bad - year among annual typhus cases endemic to the LA area. Dr. Drew was raising the alarm about how ‘no one was taking the danger of the typhus outbreak seriously’ ... except good old himself. Never mind that typhus is ugly but rarely deadly. Never mind that Drew drew parallels to homelessness as the source, when it wasn’t.

But now he’s going to be the voice of wisdom and reason about corona virus being overblown.

Huh.

‘Effing hilarious.

Dr. Drew. The media star specialist in dysfunctional sex addictions / relationships. Now recasting himself as an epidemiologist. He is right to point out the hysteria is over the top. Just like it was when HE was spinning the hyperbole about typhus.

Lo ‘effing L.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Stop spreading misinformation.

Of the 66 confirmed cases in Santa Clara county currently 31 are hospitalized. I've had the flu 5 times and never went to the hospital. There's a 2-3% mortality rate too which is Spanish flu levels.

This is serious. Prepare to have your life disrupted and that frankly is a good thing. Read about the towns during the Spanish flu that just let public events go on as usual vs those that did not...

Why don’t you stop spreading fear. Our lives are disrupted by people like you running around in a panic buying 300 rolls of TP. Fear never helps.

Originally Posted by wac_432

Revisit these posts in a month when your local hospital is 400% capacity and RN's are having to choose who is most likely to survive in order to allocate respirators, while walking away from a wailing son or daughter begging them to save their mama or father.

Yeah let’s do that. Let’s revisit this in a couple of months when this runs it’s course and it been hysteria for nothing. This would be funny if stores weren’t running out of stock and businesses weren’t suffering. The scene you paint is almost comical if it wasn’t pathetic. Families begging for a respirator? Over react much?

After witnessing all the chicken littles and the hand wringing, I’d hate to see what happens in a real emergency. Civilization will collapse.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Well this is truly a moment of ironic hilarity in the midst of some gloom. Dr. Drew, eh? The same same Dr. Drew who spread hyperbolic fear about the typhus outbreak a year back in LA ... the outbreak that went nowhere ... the outbreak that was simply another - but bad - year among annual typhus cases endemic to the LA area. Dr. Drew was raising the alarm about how ‘no one was taking the danger of the typhus outbreak seriously’ ... except good old himself. Never mind that typhus is ugly but rarely deadly. Never mind that Drew drew parallels to homelessness as the source, when it wasn’t.

But now he’s going to be the voice of wisdom and reason about corona virus being overblown.

Huh.

‘Effing hilarious.

Dr. Drew. The media star specialist in dysfunctional sex addictions / relationships. Now recasting himself as an epidemiologist. He is right to point out the hysteria is over the top. Just like it was when HE was spinning the hyperbole about typhus.

Lo ‘effing L.

It wasn't so much the fact that it was THAT Dr. Drew, it was his message which is on point. The media is blowing this thing up so much, it isn't any wonder people are in a frenzy over it. Everywhere I read, people are focusing on how deadly the virus is but they fail to mention that the deaths that have already occurred are older people who had underlying health conditions. As one poster here who actually has the virus has stated, he felt worse years ago when he had the plain old flu.

Simmer down, Tulemutt. No one is jumping on Dr. Drew's bandwagon. We were commenting on what he was saying and it's true. Doesn't matter that he's the one saying it. I've heard others say it, too. It's just that THIS article was the one TR posted.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Of the 66 confirmed cases in Santa Clara county currently 31 are hospitalized. I've had the flu 5 times and never went to the hospital. There's a 2-3% mortality rate too which is Spanish flu levels.

This is serious. Prepare to have your life disrupted and that frankly is a good thing. Read about the towns during the Spanish flu that just let public events go on as usual vs those that did not...

I'm curious. Do you happen to know how old those patients are? I keep hearing that it's older people who are the ones being hit the hardest.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

I'm curious. Do you happen to know how old those patients are? I keep hearing that it's older people who are the ones being hit the hardest.

Someone posted a statistic that said the average age of those who died from this was 80. They’re warning people over 60 with weak immune systems to stay away from crowds.

That sure sounds a lot like statistics for the flu and the advice they give for the flu.

[Mike930]

I found one article that had some statistics from China. this is near the end of the article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mar...7-35CBCDC8E222

“The sample’s overall case-fatality rate was 2.3%, in line with the earlier global estimates for the virus. No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.

No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.”

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Mike930

Someone posted a statistic that said the average age of those who died from this was 80. They’re warning people over 60 with weak immune systems to stay away from crowds.

That sure sounds a lot like statistics for the flu and the advice they give for the flu.

Originally Posted by Mike930

I found one article that had some statistics from China. this is near the end of the article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mar...7-35CBCDC8E222

“The sample’s overall case-fatality rate was 2.3%, in line with the earlier global estimates for the virus. No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.

No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.”

Makes sense that anyone with other health problems will be more susceptible to severe illness or death from this virus. After I posted that question to njbiodude, I looked up Santa Clara county news and found that one woman who recently died was in her 60's and had been in the hospital for three weeks. They still don't know how she contracted the virus as she never traveled out of the country. And, the article didn't state if she had underlying health issues that left her immune system compromised but if she was only in her 60's, I'd say yes, she did have some other issues.

I thought about that with the news last night on Tom Hanks. I know that he's diabetic now so I think he has to be extremely cautious because diabetics are one of the ones on the list of people who are at greater risk.

Thanks for the article.