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Old 07-03-2020, 12:32 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I will challenge it in court if i get a ticket. I have the resources to do that.
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That's what a lawyer is for
Lol. No lawyer will take your case unless you have legitimate prior professional medical verification.

 
Old 07-03-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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I disagree, I don't think that large crowds of people outdoors NOT wearing masks is safe. Here's why they closed the beaches here, people seem unable to just go rafting or have a good time with their close friends or family they are somehow compelled to tie all their rafts together and booze it up out of sight of the park rangers. I've never seen so many stupid people I think the average IQ here must be about 70. I'm not sure how you could look at that picture and claim that all large outdoor events are safe.
Hmmm just about as crowded and even less booze filled as Grusomes Napa winery this weekend which is fully booked and open. Maybe he’s even there himself sipping his own Merlot. Cheers governor!!! Happy 4th !!
 
Old 07-03-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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I disagree, I don't think that large crowds of people outdoors NOT wearing masks is safe. Here's why they closed the beaches here, people seem unable to just go rafting or have a good time with their close friends or family they are somehow compelled to tie all their rafts together and booze it up out of sight of the park rangers. I've never seen so many stupid people I think the average IQ here must be about 70. I'm not sure how you could look at that picture and claim that all large outdoor events are safe.
I think you missed my point. I never said large gatherings outside were safe. In a nutshell and for the tenth time, you can’t say large groups outside are unsafe but protesting is safe. It’s all or nothing.

If protesting outside in large groups is ok, then beaches should be too. I think both contributed to it, as well as the bars and I’ve repeatedly said so.

I can’t understand why you can’t admit protesting didn’t contribute to it other than for the sake of political correctness.
 
Old 07-03-2020, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Hmmm just about as crowded and even less booze filled as Grusomes Napa winery this weekend which is fully booked and open. Maybe he’s even there himself sipping his own Merlot. Cheers governor!!! Happy 4th !!
Plumpjack winery is only having private tastings by appointment only, any winery in California is free to do the same thing (dang just when you thought you'd come up with some kind of amazing scandal I hate it when that happens, don't you?) https://plumpjackwinery.com/content/...Doc_8.5x11.pdf

PS winery tasting rooms were closed in 19 counties, this particular Plumpjack winery is in Napa County which is not on the list.

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Old 07-03-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I think you missed my point. I never said large gatherings outside were safe. In a nutshell and for the tenth time, you can’t say large groups outside are unsafe but protesting is safe. It’s all or nothing.
If protesting outside in large groups is ok, then beaches should be too. I think both contributed to it, as well as the bars and I’ve repeatedly said so.
I can’t understand why you can’t admit protesting didn’t contribute to it other than for the sake of political correctness.
I don't make decisions on the basis of political correctness. I am relying upon data and you don't like the data. I can leave it right there and I'm not troubled one bit that you disagree with me. If everyone agreed we certainly wouldn't be spending our time arguing in forums, would we?
 
Old 07-03-2020, 01:33 PM
 
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I don't make decisions on the basis of political correctness. I am relying upon data and you don't like the data. I can leave it right there and I'm not troubled one bit that you disagree with me. If everyone agreed we certainly wouldn't be spending our time arguing in forums, would we?
Very true. I think we disagree on this one. As always, be safe.

 
Old 07-03-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Very true. I think we disagree on this one. As always, be safe.

You too
 
Old 07-03-2020, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Plumpjack winery is only having private tastings by appointment only, any winery in California is free to do the same thing (dang just when you thought you'd come up with some kind of amazing scandal I hate it when that happens, don't you?) https://plumpjackwinery.com/content/...Doc_8.5x11.pdf

PS winery tasting rooms were closed in 19 counties, this particular Plumpjack winery is in Napa County which is not on the list.
Well thank God the governors winery is allowed to remain open. Funny how that works I’m sure lots of restaurants going under wish they were on that list. Very nice website they have stating it’s by appointment but not stating how many appointments they’re accommodating.
I never said it was a scandal I just think many people on here are total hypocrites
 
Old 07-03-2020, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Well thank God the governors winery is allowed to remain open. Funny how that works I’m sure lots of restaurants going under wish they were on that list. Very nice website they have stating it’s by appointment but not stating how many appointments they’re accommodating.
I never said it was a scandal I just think many people on here are total hypocrites
Ok, let's try this again. ALL NAPA WINERIES ARE OPEN that County is not one of the 19 with a spike in new cases.
 
Old 07-03-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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Ok, let's try this again. ALL NAPA WINERIES ARE OPEN that County is not one of the 19 with a spike in new cases.
This is such BS. You can't pretend that Napa wineries aren't attracting travelers from high-COVID areas and spreading the virus. I think Newsome has done a decent job of handling the virus. I think Cox would have basically buddied up to Trump and shrugged as we all got sick (and some died).

But don't kid yourself that he's not one of the elites, "managing" us stupid proles. If he had a shred of integrity, he would have kept the beaches open, closed his own winery to set a positive example, and told people to stay outdoors to help limit the spread. He would also fully cop to the fact that we are heading down the herd immunity path and we're not closing yoga studios or imposing Chinese-style lockdowns because it's too late to get ahead of this virus, and he knows Americans won't stand for the shutdowns that have been more successful in countries with stronger social fabric.
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