Coronavirus (Paramount: murders, value, laid off)

[CA4Now]

Scientists say WHO ignores the risk that coronavirus floats in air as aerosol:

https://news.yahoo.com/scientists-ig...120014485.html

[Mike930]

CDC shows mortality is decreasing. It’s still at epidemic levels but that’s likely to change.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

“Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 9.0% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26, representing the tenth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks.“

[CaliRestoration]

The COVID-19 deaths have hit a new low nationally, numbers not seen since the beginning of the plandemic in March.

More and more COVID-19 is looking like it would have been comparable to a bad flu season in terms of deaths had Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, and other Blue State Dems not allowed the elderly populations in nursing and care homes to get decimated.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

The COVID-19 deaths have hit a new low nationally, numbers not seen since the beginning of the plandemic in March.

More and more COVID-19 is looking like it would have been comparable to a bad flu season in terms of deaths had Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, and other Blue State Dems not allowed the elderly populations in nursing and care homes to get decimated.

Where should they have gone when they were discharged from hospitals and didn't have a family to return to, would the sidewalk or state prisons have been better? If you go to this page you can get the numbers for covid positive cases in assisted living centers in every state that publishes that number as you can see "blue states" were not the only ones to have large numbers of cases in Nursing homeshttphttps://www.aarp.org/caregiving/...es-deaths.html

Maybe things would have been different if Seema Verma hadn't waited until May 13th to increase the medicare payment to hospitals for keeping recovering covid patients, dontcha think?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

The COVID-19 deaths have hit a new low nationally, numbers not seen since the beginning of the plandemic in March.

More and more COVID-19 is looking like it would have been comparable to a bad flu season in terms of deaths had Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, and other Blue State Dems not allowed the elderly populations in nursing and care homes to get decimated.

We need to wait a few weeks and look at the mortality rate then. People don't die the same day that they are tested or show symptoms.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

We need to wait a few weeks and look at the mortality rate then. People don't die the same day that they are tested or show symptoms.

The good news is that the mortality rate has dropped for ten weeks. If it is mainly the bar hoppers that are responsible for the spike, the death rate should continue to decline since they are younger. Time will tell.

[goodheathen]

Deaths will not spike to the early rates. However, how many times must I say that there are many problems beyond death. Even if you factor out human suffering directly from other health consequences, there are weeks of quarantine, which for many self-employed people is economically devastating (and damaging to workplaces that depend heavily on certain employees). There are home health care assistance needs. Inpatient treatment of course is expensive. Testing is expensive when everyone might be getting the virus. Some industries simply cannot re-open both safely and economically viably, putting millions out of work. Also, the probably tens of millions who are so much at risk they have to live like shut-ins. The current situation is not okay.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Mike930

CDC shows mortality is decreasing. It’s still at epidemic levels but that’s likely to change.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

“Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 9.0% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26, representing the tenth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks.“

I guess the question is, how much will it change as they process the latest death cert data? It's inferred that it will go up, but CDC doesn't directly say that. Eventually, there will have to be a discussion of what mortality rate is acceptable.


When the shutdown first went into effect, it was to be for two weeks to starve the virus in closed public spaces like businesses and schools. Nobody here needs a reminder that that never happened. It's obvious by now that there will continue to be a rubberband effect every time the measures are loosened/re-tightened since nothing in the equation has changed in terms of the virus's presence. It makes no sense to keep shutting stuff down and expecting that to work.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Deaths will not spike to the early rates. However, how many times must I say that there are many problems beyond death. Even if you factor out human suffering directly from other health consequences, there are weeks of quarantine, which for many self-employed people is economically devastating (and damaging to workplaces that depend heavily on certain employees). There are home health care assistance needs. Inpatient treatment of course is expensive. Testing is expensive when everyone might be getting the virus. Some industries simply cannot re-open both safely and economically viably, putting millions out of work. Also, the probably tens of millions who are so much at risk they have to live like shut-ins. The current situation is not okay.

You're right, and as I have mentioned before my doctor said she thinks that it's possible that in the future patients who have recovered from Covid might find themselves with an entirely new condition to deal with. The example she gave me was people getting shingles after having had chickenpox decades earlier. (Her admonishment was in reaction to my comment that I thought if I got it I would be ok because I'm very healthy)

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by joosoon

I guess the question is, how much will it change as they process the latest death cert data? It's inferred that it will go up, but CDC doesn't directly say that. Eventually, there will have to be a discussion of what mortality rate is acceptable.


When the shutdown first went into effect, it was to be for two weeks to starve the virus in closed public spaces like businesses and schools. Nobody here needs a reminder that that never happened. It's obvious by now that there will continue to be a rubberband effect every time the measures are loosened/re-tightened since nothing in the equation has changed in terms of the virus's presence. It makes no sense to keep shutting stuff down and expecting that to work.

People need to be locked down more tightly during those periods. No partying, for example. Infected people fully quarantined. Also, the medical community is gradually learning how to stop infections from progressing into dangerous symptoms.