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Old 07-11-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat View Post
Hope it was worth it to all the 'muh freedom' people, on both sides of the aisle.
No kidding ... I did experience some schadenfreude yesterday at Walmart. The security guard would stand in front of the 'freedom loving' plandemic maskless idiots spouting off their litany of excuses. He just stood in front of them and said nothing, when they finally figured out they weren't getting in they'd tuck their tail between their legs and shuffle off to their car completely humiliated. I should have videoed it, I might go back today and do so if he's working again

 
Old 07-11-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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No kidding ... I did experience some schadenfreude yesterday at Walmart. The security guard would stand in front of the 'freedom loving' plandemic maskless idiots spouting off their litany of excuses. He just stood in front of them and said nothing, when they finally figured out they weren't getting in they'd tuck their tail between their legs and shuffle off to their car completely humiliated. I should have videoed it, I might go back today and do so if he's working again
I would have put on my mask and gotten past him and took it off. Is he going to run after me all over the store?
 
Old 07-11-2020, 10:38 AM
 
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I know it's not shelved so you don't need to tell me. I'm responding to the contention that "{d}uring a declared emergency ADA and EEOC aren't enforced" which I already knew was untrue. I was instructed to "look it up" also. Yeah, sorry. Totally wrong. And as I pointed out in that link, ADA accommodations are being weighed for school staff who need it if the district reopens campuses.
There are changes to ADA if there is a direct threat to public health, they first instituted those after 911 and modified them several times since.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article...e-masks-retail

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...r-the-ada.html
 
Old 07-11-2020, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I would have put on my mask and gotten past him and took it off. Is he going to run after me all over the store?
No, someone in the store would have told you to put the mask on or leave. In several counties in California businesses face a $10,000 fine for violating state or local covid guidance, that would include allowing people to enter without a face covering. But you really should consider putting your big boy pants on and just wear a mask.
 
Old 07-11-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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No, someone in the store would have told you to put the mask on or leave. In several counties in California businesses face a $10,000 fine for violating state or local covid guidance, that would include allowing people to enter without a face covering. But you really should consider putting your big boy pants on and just wear a mask.
I think those that refuse masks, should all go to a Covid party
See the thread on the guy who died after going to one.
 
Old 07-11-2020, 11:03 AM
 
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The plan isn't to send kids back to a pre-March version of schools. You'd lose that bet too.
If you read a little deeper, the plan here is to offer a choice for one thing. Nobody has to send their kids back to school if they don't want to, nor does staff have to return. As I posted on the mask thread, the district and union are negotiating a plan which includes ADA accommodation (something you claim is shelved at the moment) for educators/staff who want to return to campus but are higher risk category people. They're also partnering with a epidemiology experts from UCSD to provide guidance on the safety protocols they're planning.
I'll post this again. You should read it. Here's part of the initial guidelines:[/list]Not sure where you're getting your information. Nowhere is anyone talking about putting together a class of 30 kids in a non-airconditioned environment with no social distancing.
At least in this district classes have between 25 and 35 students, they are mostly small classrooms built 50-60 years ago. If you were to practice social distancing you would probably need 4 times as many classrooms and unless teachers can clone themselves the district would need to hire thousands of additional teachers. It isn't going to happen, at least not here, the district serves 49,943 students in 77 public schools. Many of the schools are not air conditioned and some have permanently sealed windows because of fear of a shooter coming in through a window.

I would love it if this district could figure out a way to have on site classes, but the most I can see them doing is having kids meet on campus for a few hours once or twice a week. The distance learning that they instituted in April was just horrible, it was a mishmash of apps each requiring different logins and having several different methods of submitting the work. I am sure that some of the ELL kids (and there are a ton of them here from 40+ different countries here) didn't have parents who knew English well enough to navigate that mess, and more than a few don't have access to broadband. School is supposed to start here on August 13 and the idiot administrators keep having meetings and taking polls and haven't started to implement anything.

And to make it worse, we have a bunch of DeVos supported idiots who call themselves "the return to school coalition" who are protesting and lobbying to open the schools with no modifications, of course most of them call this a "plandemic" and somehow think the whole thing is a Democratic plot to keep Trump from getting re-elected.
 
Old 07-11-2020, 11:12 AM
 
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Teachers don't want to do it
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/polit...rus/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/teac...215709113.html
 
Old 07-11-2020, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Who can blame them? I sure wouldn't do it. Look at these stats from Texas childcare centers:

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At least 1,335 people have tested positive from child care facilities in Texas, the state's Department of Health and Human Services reported Monday, citing figures from Friday.

Of those infected, 894 were staff members and 441 were children. The cases came from 883 child care facilities that are open in the state, DHHS said. The new cases mark a significant increase from June 15, when there were 210 reported cases from 177 facilities -- including 141 staff members and 69 children.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/healt...ies/index.html
 
Old 07-11-2020, 11:31 AM
 
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I think those that refuse masks, should all go to a Covid party
See the thread on the guy who died after going to one.
I agree!
 
Old 07-11-2020, 07:14 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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I would have put on my mask and gotten past him and took it off. Is he going to run after me all over the store?
Wear your mask. Not wearing a mask is sick sick sick sick sick sick sick!

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