Coronavirus (containers, theater, camping)

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Racer46

I may see about being tested for showing any signs of having had the virus.

If it was last year like you said, it's been too long to test for antibodies or whatever.
Two in-laws of mine got false positive tests doing this, just fyi. As for built up resistance, I'm guessing almost any reputable doctor would advise you to get vaccinated even if it was likely you had the virus in the past. FWIW, I'm almost positive I had it last February too. I've had both doses of vaccine now and had literally no side effects, not even soreness in my arm from either shot.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

To be clear, the government has no plans to issue vaccination passports, which seems like a wise move given the ineptitude of the California Department of Motor Vehicles in issuing Real IDs. If it is done, it will be undertaken by businesses as part of their reopening protocol. The role for the government, according to Andy Slavitt, acting director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, it is to provide criteria for security, privacy and access.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...ts-base-afraid

The next paragraph in that op-ed was more quote worthy imo:


Certainly, the use of digital vaccination certification apps raises legitimate concerns that need to be addressed. If the government isn’t certifying people’s vaccination status, who would do it and why should we trust them? How would that status be confirmed? What about fraud? Would every business employ a different app that would have to be downloaded? Would our information be stored in some database? What about people without smartphones or those who can’t get vaccinated for medical reasons? Does it even make sense to invest in passes when the government says that in a few short months there will be enough vaccines for everyone who wants one?


States like California take privacy issues to the extreme, something I'm actually grateful for in an otherwise overly nanny-state environment. Businesses collecting, or worse, storing what amounts to medical records for individuals wouldn't sit well with established consumer protection laws. So it really begs the question, who would administer these so-called passports? So contrary to what the author says, it couldn't be privately done and we would end up with something akin to the DMV just like she fears.


I do agree though that the hyperbole swelling around the idea of vaccine passports is off the charts. Leave it to doomsayers to go full mark of the beast flying off the handle.

[roadtrip75]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

To be clear, the government has no plans to issue vaccination passports, which seems like a wise move given the ineptitude of the California Department of Motor Vehicles in issuing Real IDs. If it is done, it will be undertaken by businesses as part of their reopening protocol. The role for the government, according to Andy Slavitt, acting director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, it is to provide criteria for security, privacy and access.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...ts-base-afraid

This is how the State operates in 2021. The government agencies (nearly immune from voter control) provide the talking points and then they hand off the baton to the corporations (also nearly immune from public opinion) for the execution of the policy.


There is a seamless connection between the large corporations, the Democrat Party, the government bureaucracy, and the mainstream media. They are operating as one giant organism.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by roadtrip75

This is how the State operates in 2021.....There is a seamless connection between the large corporations, the Democrat Party, the government bureaucracy, and the mainstream media. They are operating as one giant organism.

...says the poster who lives in Florida. LOL.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by joosoon

The next paragraph in that op-ed was more quote worthy imo:


Certainly, the use of digital vaccination certification apps raises legitimate concerns that need to be addressed. If the government isn’t certifying people’s vaccination status, who would do it and why should we trust them? How would that status be confirmed? What about fraud? Would every business employ a different app that would have to be downloaded? Would our information be stored in some database? What about people without smartphones or those who can’t get vaccinated for medical reasons? Does it even make sense to invest in passes when the government says that in a few short months there will be enough vaccines for everyone who wants one?


States like California take privacy issues to the extreme, something I'm actually grateful for in an otherwise overly nanny-state environment. Businesses collecting, or worse, storing what amounts to medical records for individuals wouldn't sit well with established consumer protection laws. So it really begs the question, who would administer these so-called passports? So contrary to what the author says, it couldn't be privately done and we would end up with something akin to the DMV just like she fears.


I do agree though that the hyperbole swelling around the idea of vaccine passports is off the charts. Leave it to doomsayers to go full mark of the beast flying off the handle.

It seems California is heading towards at least a form of passport. There was an article in the San Diego news that said they are going to start opening concerts, theaters and other indoor venues. To get in you have to show proof of vaccination or a negative test.

[1200RT]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

...says the poster who lives in Florida. LOL.

Why is that “LOL”? This is a big country and a big state with people with interests spanning the country and globe. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn’t mean they don’t care what goes on in CA.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by 1200RT

Why is that “LOL”? This is a big country and a big state with people with interests spanning the country and globe. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn’t mean they don’t care what goes on in CA.

It has nothing to do with someone "caring about what goes on in CA." I replied to their comment about how they seem sure that Big Brother exists in a state in which they don't reside.

[roadtrip75]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

It has nothing to do with someone "caring about what goes on in CA." I replied to their comment about how they seem sure that Big Brother exists in a state in which they don't reside.

The really interesting thing is that instead of being horrified by the broad decline of your home state, you are making excuses for the people driving that decline.


"lol lol the government isn't going to violate our freedom and privacy and require us to participate in experimental gene therapy, no it will just be some private corporations doing that lol lol"

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by roadtrip75

The really interesting thing is that instead of being horrified by the broad decline of your home state, you are making excuses for the people driving that decline.


"lol lol the government isn't going to violate our freedom and privacy and require us to participate in experimental gene therapy, no it will just be some private corporations doing that lol lol"

No tinfoil shortage in your home, eh?

So, now that QAnon is dying, where do you plan to associate next?

[CA4Now]

Let's hope that the fourth wave doesn't hit California.

What appears to be a fourth wave of the COVID-19 pandemic has struck Michigan, the New York region and New England, and experts are uncertain whether it will remain contained.

“The United States has entered a fourth wave of transmission, and there’s no disputing this. Whether it remains as small regional outbreaks, or whether it generalizes nationwide remains to be seen,” Dr. George Rutherford, a UC San Francisco epidemiologist, said Friday at a campus town hall meeting.

Nationally, there has been an 8% week-over-week increase in the average daily number of newly diagnosed coronavirus cases, rising to about 62,000 for the seven-day period that ended Wednesday, federal officials said Friday. The average daily number of new hospital admissions for COVID-19 patients rose 5% over the same period.

California, where case numbers have dipped to levels not seen since the end of last spring, is in a much better situation. The state is reporting daily averages of 2,500 to 2,700 cases. (During the worst of the surge in the fall and winter, California was reporting 45,000 cases a day.) Additionally, California has had a coronavirus test positivity rate of 1%-2% over the last week — compared with 16% in Michigan and 9% in New Jersey.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rus-california