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Old 10-25-2021, 07:45 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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As far as I know, vaccines without live virus have never caused problems that didn't arise very quickly. Post-viral effects of COVID-19 simply haven't been studied long enough...
Agreed.

Re: Long Covid: "The WHO's definition may change as new evidence emerges and as understanding of the consequences of COVID-19 continues to evolve. A separate definition may be applicable for children, the agency said.

The exact number of affected people is not known. A study from Oxford University of more than 270,000 COVID-19 survivors found at least one long-term symptom in 37%...

DO COVID-19 VACCINES HELP WITH LONG COVID? Small studies have suggested that some people with long COVID experienced improvement in their symptoms after being vaccinated. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said more research is needed to determine the effects of vaccination on post-COVID conditions."

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...19-2021-10-07/

 
Old 10-25-2021, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Agreed.

Re: Long Covid: "The WHO's definition may change as new evidence emerges and as understanding of the consequences of COVID-19 continues to evolve. A separate definition may be applicable for children, the agency said.

The exact number of affected people is not known. A study from Oxford University of more than 270,000 COVID-19 survivors found at least one long-term symptom in 37%...

DO COVID-19 VACCINES HELP WITH LONG COVID? Small studies have suggested that some people with long COVID experienced improvement in their symptoms after being vaccinated. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said more research is needed to determine the effects of vaccination on post-COVID conditions."

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...19-2021-10-07/

It’s ridiculous To even suggest a vaccine is a elixir and shows how insane pro vaxxers are getting
 
Old 10-26-2021, 03:17 AM
 
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Our numbers would have us shut down still. So if the state was being honest and following actual science, nothing would be open and everyone would be stuck at home.
Its interesting though that many corporations tend to follow California's guidelines even in other parts other parts of the country.

Its true much of the state still went to purple tier levels shortly after their but that yellow or red flag on the race track seems to be burned to a crisp and never to be used again. In the end its all politics not really science despite how they argue it is. I now realize many deaths were not really caused by COVID but due to kept confidentially secret hospital procedures performed on COVID patients including in rehab centers and nursing homes. What they won't tell you is that patients died COVID negative but positive bacterial infections due to improper sanitation of medical equipment this has happened to fully vaccinated people as well but they would continue to argue its highly unlikely and only affect mostly the unvaxxed.
 
Old 10-26-2021, 07:32 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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What they won't tell you is that patients died COVID negative but positive bacterial infections due to improper sanitation of medical equipment this has happened to fully vaccinated people as well but they would continue to argue its highly unlikely and only affect mostly the unvaxxed.
Got a link for that one, citizen?
 
Old 10-26-2021, 07:57 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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“People get confused—or they think something is wrong—when guidance changes with COVID-19, but we have to remember that we are learning about this as we go.”
— Albert Shaw, MD, PhD, Yale Medicine infectious diseases expert

Do You Need a COVID-19 Booster? What We Know So Far:
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-booster
 
Old 10-27-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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Well CA is doing very well and is #1 in low cases and FL is #2.

California, Florida, New Mexico, and Alabama all have death rates of less than 0.5 per 100,000 people.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-is-increasing
 
Old 10-27-2021, 06:55 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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More support for the belief that grocery stores have been spreading COVID-19.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el...?ocid=msedgntp
 
Old 10-27-2021, 06:58 PM
 
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More support for the belief that grocery stores have been spreading COVID-19.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el...?ocid=msedgntp
Humm,

"An investigation by the commissioner's office found that “some workers were forced to work while sick, others were told to apply for unemployment while quarantining or in isolation, while others waited months to be paid. The alleged violations affected 240 workers at 38 of the Latino supermarket's locations, including 21 in Los Angeles County and one in Anaheim."
 
Old 10-27-2021, 07:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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More support for the belief that grocery stores have been spreading COVID-19.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el...?ocid=msedgntp
Wouldn't that apply to any businesses that did what that company did?
 
Old 10-28-2021, 01:35 AM
Status: "A solution in search of a problem" (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by CA4Now View Post
“People get confused—or they think something is wrong—when guidance changes with COVID-19, but we have to remember that we are learning about this as we go.”
— Albert Shaw, MD, PhD, Yale Medicine infectious diseases expert

Do You Need a COVID-19 Booster? What We Know So Far:
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-booster
I got mine today.
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