Coronavirus (live, dangerous, health)

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by citizensadvocate

Are masks still required in health care settings?

Not only are health care settings in Sacramento and across the U.S. continuing to require masks but mask requirements will likely become a part of health care indefinitely.

“COVID-19 has caused a new heightened awareness of all airborne illness,” said Adam Dougherty, an emergency room physician at Sutter Medical Center Sacramento, who is a member of the board of the Sacramento Valley Medical Society and a trustee of the California Medical Association. Dougherty said masks provide protection from contagious diseases such as the flu, in addition to COVID-19, and wearing one is a prudent thing to do in medical settings, given the uncertain nature of new variants.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/ar...#storylink=cpy

[goodheathen]

The Federal government is, correctly I say, appealing the court order on masks.

During the AIDS crisis, the government aggressively preached safe sex and where possible shut down high-risk activities (e.g., bath houses). Schools get shut down for measles outbreaks. Places close over listeria outbreaks. Laissez-fare doesn't work in a widespread public health crisis (or what would be expected to spread widely). The comparison with seasonal flu is invalid, because in the modern era flu doesn't spread very easily. As I've said before, the government has the authority to protect employees in high-risk venues and can mandate masking by them and probably even regulate indoor air quality.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Yeah, she's just angry because it's a loss of power for people like her who just want to tell people what to do.

Just like Fraud-chi. His 15 minutes are up.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Yeah, she's just angry because it's a loss of power for people like her who just want to tell people what to do.

Yep, go back to the start of this thread and it's clearly evident.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

During the AIDS crisis, the government aggressively preached safe sex and where possible shut down high-risk activities (e.g., bath houses). Schools get shut down for measles outbreaks. Places close over listeria outbreaks. Laissez-fare doesn't work in a widespread public health crisis (or what would be expected to spread widely). The comparison with seasonal flu is invalid, because in the modern era flu doesn't spread very easily. As I've said before, the government has the authority to protect employees in high-risk venues and can mandate masking by them and probably even regulate indoor air quality.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

[Hawk J]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

I'm not saying heart disease or cancer are transmissible. Don't try to spin it that way CA4Now. I'm saying that people focus more on covid than other illnesses that have a high incident of death, as well. And I'm not even comparing them. Period.

I'm saying that you can't continue to control people's lives by restricting them, due to fear of getting sick. Restrictions and heavy regulation messes with a person's mind. If you don't believe me, look at the uptick of violent outbursts on airlines. People attacking flight attendants. Shootings up in cities across this country.

I know people don't want to equate what's happening with covid but the increase started just after all the mandates occurred.

I want everyone to be healthy too but the fact remains that this virus is going to be around for a very long time ... maybe forever in various strains. We're all going to have to learn how to live with it, whether that means changing our social behavior, getting vaccinations on a regular basis or whatever else has to happen to stay safe.

I don't want to see people sick but disease and dying have been here for eons and it's not going away. Learn to live with it and stop restricting people. That's more unhealthy than the virus, imo.

I totally agree, Very Well Said, my friend...

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

MTS even caved today. No more mask baloney anywhere in SD.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by beachGecko

When we talk about "long COVID" we have to be clear what we're talking about.

It's a broad term much like post-polio syndrome. It can run the gamut.

The poster is laser focused on "long covid" while continuing to ignore that one must first get "short covid" for it to even be a consideration. It's pointless to worry about something defined with such loose parameters, which itself hinges on a whole other variable in the first place. That's borderline paranoia. It's unrealistic to think that the vast majority of people who suffered mild symptoms of covid (or less likely, the truly asymptomatic ones) are going to have long term detrimental health effects from it.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

MTS even caved today. No more mask baloney anywhere in SD.

Yeah I saw. I think they just wanted the appearance of doing *something* to cover their collective asses if it somehow, in some rare way, became actionable in the future. Like, "oh all those people got covid riding the trolley? well, we tried!".



That's kinda been the nature of all this supposed guidance in the last few months.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by joosoon

It's a broad term much like post-polio syndrome. It can run the gamut.

The poster is laser focused on "long covid" while continuing to ignore that one must first get "short covid" for it to even be a consideration. It's pointless to worry about something defined with such loose parameters, which itself hinges on a whole other variable in the first place. That's borderline paranoia. It's unrealistic to think that the vast majority of people who suffered mild symptoms of covid (or less likely, the truly asymptomatic ones) are going to have long term detrimental health effects from it.

Which I never said. So many people in these threads put words in my mouth. I can't know about Omicron, because it hasn't been long around enough to study for and publish long-term effects, but multiple earlier variants needed just a little bad luck to make not especially vulnerable people feel bad for months. And Omicron isn't the last variant that will affect millions. Why should I push my luck in high-risk settings?