How Can California Protect Itself From the Coming Trump Depression? (Montclair: unemployed, buying)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

You keep bring up the money sent to DC but don't address that more came back to Ca, so in reality no money was given away. You've also made posts about how the taxes were used to support the poor states. If this was true and you think the money should not go to DC to support the poor people, then let's look at a post in you wrote in your blog

"America, the moment we turn our backs on the downtrodden and needy, that's the moment God turns his back on us. We will not prosper with any degree of sustainability, we will not have a lasting increase, we will not have lasting succes but only temporary satisfaction for the rich. Blessings come when we identify and act upon opportunities to help our brothers and sisters in their time of need." . . . 18Montclair

So on one hand you say we should help out the needy, but then you say Califonia money should not be used to help them. You are one of the most two faced hypocrites ever. That is why a lot of people don't agree with you nor will they listen to you.

I'm glad you reposted that beautiful post of mine. *tears*

The reason why California must reclaim it's money is because Donald Trump is not a worthy steward of it. He is too corrupt and disloyal to the nation's most needy.

Just as states banded together during the pandemic due to the President's unwillingness to help them acquire nevessary equipment, states should band together to help each other as far as health care and the social safety net.

[18Montclair]

This headline from yesterday is absolutely infuriating.

Trump says he's sending ventilators to Russia for Putin's coronavirus response, but he previously pushed back on requests from US governors
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...esponse-2020-5

[goozer]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

What measures can California take at this point? Any ideas?

Repeal Proposition 13!

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by goozer

Repeal Proposition 13!

I agree with this one to be able to provide the necessary funding for our schools. Our children are our future. I do think that if this is done, we need to help those who are on a fixed income, who've locked in ultra-low property taxes. Many of these folks are elderly and would need financial aid if Prop 13 were repealed.

[V8 Vega]

Repeal prop.13, and everybody will move out for sure and house prices will then collapse and tax money down the drain.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

I agree with this one to be able to provide the necessary funding for our schools. Our children are our future. I do think that if this is done, we need to help those who are on a fixed income, who've locked in ultra-low property taxes. Many of these folks are elderly and would need financial aid if Prop 13 were repealed.

The schools need funding? After the lotto? After bond measure after bond measure was passed? Maybe they just need to manage themselves better.

It would take a voter initiative to repeal 13. They’d have to lie about it to get it passed, but they’ve done that before.

[18Montclair]

A generation of K-12 students in CA have been deprived access to vocational programs in high school, like auto shop, carpentry, nursing etc. due to budget cuts, but I feel like emphasizing 4-year college degrees on kids who arent inclined to see it through has wasted a lot of time and money, when their talents and skills lie elsewhere.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

What measures can California take at this point? Any ideas?

Go to the beach. The sunshine will kill the virus double quick.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

A generation of K-12 students in CA have been deprived access to vocational programs in high school, like auto shop, carpentry, nursing etc. due to budget cuts, but I feel like emphasizing 4-year college degrees on kids who arent inclined to see it through has wasted a lot of time and money, when their talents and skills lie elsewhere.

On this we agree. Some aren’t cut out for college and would do well in vocational school. They don’t have to repeal 13 to get it done.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Mike930

The schools need funding? After the lotto? After bond measure after bond measure was passed? Maybe they just need to manage themselves better.

It would take a voter initiative to repeal 13. They’d have to lie about it to get it passed, but they’ve done that before.

The reason why bond measures are needed is because schools don't have enough funding. The school district where my children live needs extra funding every year from parents in the form of donations to pay for enrichment programs. Let's face it, teachers remain underpaid and that's really notable in high cost of living locations, such as here in the Bay Area. Its very difficult to recruit and retain teachers when they can make a lot more money in the private sector.

If you don't believe it, look at the statistics for per pupil funding by state: https://www.governing.com/gov-data/e...upil-data.html

California is somewhere in the middle despite being a higher cost of living state. If you were to filter out the lower cost areas, this would be even more pronounced. Its no coincidence that those states with the highest property taxes (generally in the Northeast) have better performing schools on average vs California.