Masks in public now mandatory statewide (inspection, exemption, live)

[Lat 32]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

You're ignorant, probably willfully ignorant. It's not the "vast majority." Many people under 70 have underlying conditions. In some areas, most deaths are not from elderly, nursing home patients. Plus, for the millionth time, many people who aren't very young and get COVID-19 do develop bad, non-fatal symptoms.

Blah, blah, blah... "Many" people under 70 have heart conditions, therefore let's ban all fast food. Many people under 70 have died in car crashes, therefore let's ban cars. And, so on.

"Many" is nebulous and anecdotal, when you convert the actual numbers to % of population or the number of people who have contracted Covid-19, the %s are very small (.4% of those who contracted it will die).

Life is meant be lived freely. I refuse to cower underneath my bed or live my life as a slave.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by Lat 32

Blah, blah, blah... "Many" people under 70 have heart conditions, therefore let's ban all fast food. Many people under 70 have died in car crashes, therefore let's ban cars. And, so on.

"Many" is nebulous and anecdotal, when you convert the actual numbers to % of population or the number of people who have contracted Covid-19, the %s are very small (.4% of those who contracted it will die).

Life is meant be lived freely. I refuse to cower underneath my bed or live my life as a slave.

There's very little, affordable way to make cars appreciably safer. There's nothing nearly as simple as wearing a face mask. I think it's moderately comparable to mandatory seat belts (until, with some luck, a vaccine negates the need for ordinary people).

You have no idea what you're talking about beyond the very small percentage of people who die, but any medical professional now knows there's a significant, yet-to-be calculated percentage of 'survivors' who have a lengthy, very unpleasant experience that probably was avoidable (without "cowering"). You are putting philosophy over common sense.

[goodheathen]

Has anyone heard what the procedure will be for claiming a medical exemption for mask wearing? There's obviously potential for widespread abuse if there's no documentation involved.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Has anyone heard what the procedure will be for claiming a medical exemption for mask wearing? There's obviously potential for widespread abuse if there's no documentation involved.

Good question. I’m going to ask next time I’m at the store. I’ll bet they aren’t allowed to ask for proof.

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[looker009]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

A store cannot be sued for discriminatory behavior if the government has mandated the behavior. You do not make a good amateur lawyer.

except unless there is an exception under the order which there is. If person have medical condition that prevents him/her from breathing with mask on, they can't be required to wear a mask.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Has anyone heard what the procedure will be for claiming a medical exemption for mask wearing? There's obviously potential for widespread abuse if there's no documentation involved.

There is none being you do not have disclose your medical condition under ADA

[goodheathen]

A way around quizzing people claiming to have medical exemptions is to lower the limit on the total number of customers allowed in the store when some aren't wearing masks. Then shoppers will feel pressure to wear masks and the government can easily identify and punish stores that violate limits.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by looker009

There is none being you do not have disclose your medical condition under ADA

It's not that simple, e.g., mandatory vaccines. I'm guessing there's a public safety clause re ADA that can make some lawsuits over it unlikely to proceed.

[V8 Vega]

Mask on "I can't breath"

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by looker009

none of those permit can be revoked and are revenue collection account. I am not seeing city's cracking down much

Think again hotshot. The county health department can close down any business in California that they deem to be unsafe.