Llano, California...what's it like? (San Bernardino, Lancaster: to buy, living in, safe)

[sewsewwhat]

I'm looking at some property in Llano, CA and I wanted to know what that area is like. I'm from the East Coast so I'm very used to diversity, but we'd like a break from the city. Is that a place that is safe for minorities and people of color because we don't have much patience for areas that aren't? Also, what's the weather like there? Is it the desert? The times I've visited Cali the weather has been totally different every place I've been. Thanks for your help!

[moved]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llano,_California

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by sewsewwhat

I'm looking at some property in Llano, CA and I wanted to know what that area is like. I'm from the East Coast so I'm very used to diversity, but we'd like a break from the city. Is that a place that is safe for minorities and people of color because we don't have much patience for areas that aren't? Also, what's the weather like there? Is it the desert? The times I've visited Cali the weather has been totally different every place I've been. Thanks for your help!

Llano is basically in the middle of nowhere as it were. It is definitely in the desert, dry and hot for sure in Summer. Closest city is Pearblossom and not much there, and then Palmdale and Lancaster. I had family that lived near there many years ago. It is not where I would ever want to live. Nothing there.

[Fontucky]

There is no there there.

[saibot]

On the bright side, I'm sure the land is cheap!

[LakersWon310]

Llano, CA is actually one of the best investments of not just CA but anything west of the Mississippi.

Not only will Llano become a major California city by 2050. It will be a great city.

To each and everyone that said Llano is a bad investment: When LA overtakes NYC as the #1 metro in North America, the growth will be east of Palmdale which is exactly where Llamo is.

Again, future of LA growth is between Palmdale and Apple Valley.

[apple92680]

I live in Palmdale, probably 15-20 miles from Llano. Llano is in LA County and part of a belt of small towns along Highway 138...Pearblossom, Llano, and Phelan.

Highway 138 is the main highway between Palmdale and San Bernardino.

Llano is part of Pearblossom. Pearblossom is a majority-White/Hispanic mixed town. Same with Phelan, which is just over the border in San Bernardino County.

You will have to go to Palmdale or Victorville for all of your needs. I do not know a lot about Victorville, but Palmdale has a good amount of retail out that way on the east side. I'm a "west sider" and I don't venture out that way very often, but plenty of people I know live out that way and like it alright.

To put it bluntly, if you are Black, you probably will not like Llano. If you are Hispanic, you probably will.

Climate-wise, Llano is part of the Antelope Valley and thus Mojave Desert. It sits right up against the San Gabriel Mountain Range, so it has a beautiful backdrop. It gets very hot in the summer and winters can be cold and very windy due to the winds coming over the mountain passes nearby. It's definitely a 4-season type of place.

Interestingly, Llano was once the site of a Socialist Utopian Settlement called the "Del Rio Commune", pioneered by people from LA in the 1930s. You can look it up.

[mstnghu2]

Originally Posted by LakersWon310

Llano, CA is actually one of the best investments of not just CA but anything west of the Mississippi.

Not only will Llano become a major California city by 2050. It will be a great city.

To each and everyone that said Llano is a bad investment: When LA overtakes NYC as the #1 metro in North America, the growth will be east of Palmdale which is exactly where Llamo is.

Again, future of LA growth is between Palmdale and Apple Valley.

This seems a bit presumptuous.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by LakersWon310

Again, future of LA growth is between Palmdale and Apple Valley.

Assuming there's enough of this:

[HB2HSV]

I live in Palmdale and was working in Victorville. It's a 60 mile one-way commute across the desert so I had a lot of time to look & think.

I was tempted to buy land just the idea of owning 5-10 acres. The land are cheap. As cheap as $1K - $2K per acre if you look. But as I look across the wide open space, there is nothing..... NOTHING but tumbleweed. It's not like the land has trees, water and wildlife.

So unless you enjoy living in solitude, away from people, practically off-grid, think twice about desert living. The electric company charges you $1K per foot to bring electricity to your property. You're most certainly need to install a septic tank, and see if you can get water into your property. You'll need to pay to pave the road into your property unless you enjoy dusty road and get stucked when it rains. The bottom line is it's expensive to live in an undeveloped land. It's not like living in suburbia where all these infrastructure are already done for you.