Does it strike you as odd that we have no party-like beach town in the state? (San Diego: real estate, amusement parks)

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

It's an interesting question when you turn it around, and ask why the Spanish and French rivieras don't have large swaths of state parks, nature reserves, and the like.

I must say, you lost me on the "inland conservatives who are largely Latino" part. I don't know what Latinos you're referring to. Many California-born or naturalized Latinos are known for voting Dem. The inland conservatives generally are the white farmers/ranchers and businessmen. Those used to be a significant presence in the coastal areas, too. Well, that's still true around Orange County, for example. Plenty of conservatives there. So I'm puzzled at your characterization of CA voting & demographic patterns. Maybe you're referring to the descendants of the earlier California landowners, under Spain/Mexico?

Those inland Latino populations may vote for Democratic candidates with a Spanish surname, yes. Does that make them liberals? Not really. Inland Latinos tend to be a lot more conservative -- family, church, fiestas, hard work, manufacturing, farm labor, etc.

The Spanish-named, Democratic Assembly and Senate leaders they send to Sacramento will, of course, vote with the coastal liberal majority so that they can maintain diplomacy, but their constituents have different needs and concerns.

Inland Latinos, when compared to coastal liberals, are just not as concerned with banning straws and plastic bags (which are good ideas, btw), LGBT rights, BLM, feminism, reproductive choice, multiculturalism, tech and things of that nature, which are more concerning to coastal liberals.

The true California liberals (a.k.a. "Patagonia crowd"), as I mentioned, are concentrated in the coastal counties. Even formerly-conservative counties like Orange and San Luis Obispo are becoming more multicultural and liberal, as more liberals spill over from the Bay Area and LA.

[DKM]

What about Havasu or Pacific Beach? Hollywood has some pretty big party scenes too. When people here want to go party, they tend to do it at each other's houses. Or Vegas.

[forzalugano]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Palm Springs used to be a big Spring Break draw for young people --doubt that's the case anymore. Not sure that's what you're talking about. As for attractions, our state has tons of outdoor destinations which, to me, are the real treasures -- not towers or statues. I'd rather go hike and fish in the Sierras or something.

There is a lot of money in Palm Springs as well as many beach areas that keep tight controls, hence the locals would go to Mexico or the Havasu AZ. All the snobs in Palm Spring in their $5M country club homes put a stop to any parties or anything about two decades ago.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by Pro1000

Excluding Las Vegas... How does this state, the 7th largest economy in the world, not have its own Ibiza(spain), Miami Beach, Mykonos(greece), Cancun, Monaco, Gold Coast, etc. type party getaway for a couple of days town?

I'd also add the Florida and Texas party beach destinations, such as Panama City and So. Padre Island. Also Copacabana in Rio.

Each of these previously mentioned destinations boast two features that CA can't: warm water and some classification of tropical heat. (Mykonos and Ibiza, like So Cal, are Mediterranean climate exceptions to the tropical heat) The California Current of the North Pacific Subtropical Gyre ensures that our seawater temps keep male members shrunken to infantile dimensions.

So Cal coastal areas can be downright chilly in the Summer, especially when the gray, gloomy marine layer persists well into the afternoon.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by Pro1000

but there's really nothing spectacular to see in our state. No Eiffle Tower, Christ the Redeemer, Statue of Liberty, Burj Khalifa, etc.st

Christ the Redeemer's a spectacular party beach draw? I would think the debauched beach party heathens in Rio would either ignore its presence as irrelevant or not not appreciate the Christian skydaddy figure looking down upon them disapprovingly, like their flesh and blood daddy would be doing back home in Sioux Falls.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

I'd also add the Florida and Texas party beach destinations, such as Panama City and So. Padre Island. Also Copacabana in Rio.

Each of these previously mentioned destinations boast two features that CA can't: warm water and some classification of tropical heat. (Mykonos and Ibiza, like So Cal, are Mediterranean climate exceptions to the tropical heat) The California Current of the North Pacific Subtropical Gyre ensures that our seawater temps keep male members shrunken to infantile dimensions.

So Cal coastal areas can be downright chilly in the Summer, especially when the gray, gloomy marine layer persists well into the afternoon.

They are still a lot warmer though than SoCal, mid to upper 80's during the day and 70's at night. Water is upper 70's to almost 80 there on average too.

[MrIndependent]

Meh. No thank you.
The party beaches along the Gulf are not particularly impressive. I'm talking about TX, Bama, and FL Panhandle. Gross.

Miami Beach and Ibiza seem cool, but Vegas is probably just as good if not better. Vegas is the ultimate party location and it's 4 - 6 hour drive from SoCal and a 10 hour drive from NorCal.

[MrIndependent]

Originally Posted by apple92680

Those inland Latino populations may vote for Democratic candidates with a Spanish surname, yes. Does that make them liberals? Not really. Inland Latinos tend to be a lot more conservative -- family, church, fiestas, hard work, manufacturing, farm labor, etc.

Didn't realize hard work was a conservative-only idea.

[Kevroqs]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Palm Springs used to be a big Spring Break draw for young people --doubt that's the case anymore.

For the past several years before the covid, there is a music festival called Coachella which is located near Palm Springs.

[NW4me]

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It's not on the scale of Miami Beach, but San Diego's Ocean Beach might qualify as a party destination...
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